Has anyone found/heard any information on the 2007 G6? I've scoured the net but haven't been able to find anything. Since quite a few 07 vehicles have already been publically released, it shouldn't be all that long until we hear something. I just don't want to go buy one and then find out they put 270 HP DOHC engine in it for 2007. I'm thinking of ordering a coupe. I don't want to wait, because I've never driven an stick and would want all summer to get it down before winter arrives, but I'd hold off for a year if I knew something great was coming. So if you've heard any snippet, please post.

You took the words from my mouth. Sadly I have no news to report but I can't wait either. Considering I don't have much time left on my lease of my MAXX and I can get my dream car of course the G6 coupe. If anyone knows when the new ones are going to debute please let us know!!

Well the '06s were released in the summer, so I imagine the 07s will be around the same time this year.

There should be some solid info next month. I will be going to the New York Auto Show next month, so I'll ask around. The rumor is that the 3.6 DOHC V6 will be going in the G6 GTP. ;)

'07 information will be available next month on GM Fleet.

Whats GM fleet? and how do you know it will be out next month? any more specific on the date?

There should be some solid info next month. I will be going to the New York Auto Show next month, so I'll ask around. The rumor is that the 3.6 DOHC V6 will be going in the G6 GTP. ;)
Where the hell have you heard that? My lease is up in December, I was going to be glad to get another car, but if that is true I may get another G6.

GM Fleet has an "Online Model Guide".

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/dmdindex.htm

Actually, the release date has been changed to March 27.

I heard somewhere that side-impact airbags (or perhaps head-curtain airbags or both) will be standard on the '07s.

^ They should be, Accord for '06 and Camry for '07 have made them standard, I bet the new '07 Altima will have them as standard too.

I'll be a little upset if the '07 has standard side airbags, but I won't care that much. I'll be really upset if the GTP has a 270 hp engine. Unless the price tag is higher than the '06.

^ Not as upset as us '05 GT owners who could only get a 200 HP car were this year!

I'll be a little upset if the '07 has standard side airbags, but I won't care that much. I'll be really upset if the GTP has a 270 hp engine. Unless the price tag is higher than the '06.

3.9L stays at 240/225hp.

I got into the system, the CSV info has been released. They get the 3.9L standard for 2007, and the output is 240hp.

^ Not as upset as us '05 GT owners who could only get a 200 HP car were this year!

Not sure if you're joking...

But the engine hasn't changed. 201HP is the SAE-certified rating. The engine's the same, except that we get a fancy engine cover.

3.9L stays at 240/225hp.

I got into the system, the CSV info has been released. They get the 3.9L standard for 2007, and the output is 240hp.

What is CSV info? And do you mean the 3.9 is standard on the GTP for 07' or standard for all G6's?

What is CSV info? And do you mean the 3.9 is standard on the GTP for 07' or standard for all G6's?

CSV - Crossover Sport Van, i.e. Uplander-Montana-Terraza-Relay quartet. Montana's gone for MY2007 though.

No exact info about the G6 yet, but I would say the 3.9L stays for GTP.

Where the hell have you heard that? My lease is up in December, I was going to be glad to get another car, but if that is true I may get another G6. From someone who works close to the G6 product line. ;)

I am still waiting for something official to show up before I give up any info :p

I am still waiting for something official to show up before I give up any info :p

Tomorrow.

It'll be rather upsetting to know that they're putting the 3.6 in instead of the 3.9. I guess I'll just have to do mods to keep up.

It'll be rather upsetting to know that they're putting the 3.6 in instead of the 3.9. I guess I'll just have to do mods to keep up.


Yep. Thats why I want to know before I place an order. :)
I was thinking a little more about this, and it would be a bit odd for them to put the 3.6 in the GTP for this year. Afterall, its only been available for a year as is. All the work that went into putting the 3.9 into the GTP would have only been for a one year run. Not very productive. My guess is that if they are going to put the 3.6 in anything ,it will be a new version called "GXP" or something. Hopefully if they do that, they don't rice it up with an ugly wing and crappy body kit.


I sure hope we find out tomorrow.....

I was thinking a little more about this, and it would be a bit odd for them to put the 3.6 in the GTP for this year. Afterall, its only been available for a year as is. All the work that went into putting the 3.9 into the GTP would have only been for a one year run. Not very productive.
Remember, we're talking about GM. They've been known to drop an engine after just one year. A lot of times, it has to do with the fact that the new engine was the one that they had planned to use originally but supply constraints, etc., had pushed it back a year.

That said, I have no idea if the 3.6 DOHC is coming. As a prospective buyer of an '06 G6, though, I'm holding off any purchase until I see the '07 specs. You guys who have the '06 GTPs shouldn't feel bad if the DOHC does come. Your 3.9 is a great engine. I test-drove one the other day. I've also recently tried the DOHC in the Cadillac CTS. I can't honestly say that the DOHC is any faster or smoother.

Not sure if you're joking...

I meant that in '05 200 HP was the best we could do. Now in '06 you can get 240.

Not very productive. My guess is that if they are going to put the 3.6 in anything ,it will be a new version called "GXP" or something. Hopefully if they do that, they don't rice it up with an ugly wing and crappy body kit.

The G6 line is too complicated as it is right now,adding another line will only make things worse. This is how it should be:
1) Base model: 2.4 ECOTEC at 170 HP, no V6 option.
2) GT model: 3.9 V6 at 240 HP.
3) GTP model: 3.6 DOHC bumped to 275 HP.

3 Engine choices are more than enough to satisfy the market. The 3.5 is behind every competitor and should be dropped. Those 3 model choices should play nicely with Mazda and Nissan's 3 models while offering similar top and bottom of the line competiton for the new Camry and current Galant. The Accord would only play to the middle model power wise, but a new one is just around the corner. The next Altima for '07 will probably have an increase as well.

Not if the LZ4 3500 V6 from the Impala comes into the picture. That boy generates 211hp SAE, has VVT and is ready for flex-fuel.

There were some rumours that it might make it to the Epsilons.

^ Even if that engine goes into our cars it would still be a weakling compared to the competition. All variations of the 3500 should go away, hell, the 3900 could go away if GM would do like the rest of the car world and put their best V6 in every car. Toyota, Nissan, and Honda (to a lesser extent) all do it.

I am still waiting for something official to show up before I give up any info :p I may know something too! :)

I may know something too! :)


:eek: Come on and give it up then! What's the use in knowing a secret if you can't spill it early. No one will have to know. We're all cool here. :cool:

He knows a guy on the inside. ;)

I can confirm that he knows the guy, so if he hints that we'll be getting the 3.6, then we probably will be getting the 3.6.

The inside guy was very instrumental in getting the 6-spd put into these cars.

He knows a guy on the inside. ;)

I can confirm that he knows the guy, so if he hints that we'll be getting the 3.6, then we probably will be getting the 3.6.

The inside guy was very instrumental in getting the 6-spd put into these cars. ;)

Speaking of which, you should try and get the inside guy to come visit these forums. I have doubts that he will officially make himself known after all the jerks on GAGT.COM/Pontiac-g6.com scared him away, though.

:eek: Come on and give it up then! What's the use in knowing a secret if you can't spill it early. No one will have to know. We're all cool here. :cool: I can't reveal much, because this is a public forum and a person's position can be compromised by revealing privileged information. Any info that I can share, I defiinitely will. :)

Speaking of which, you should try and get the inside guy to come visit these forums. I have doubts that he will officially make himself known after all the jerks on GAGT.COM/Pontiac-g6.com scared him away, though. I know you remember that. There were several GM insiders on those sites. I will see what I can do.

It's not really a secret that the 2007 G6 will have the 3.6L V6 rated at ~270 HP, mated to GM's new 6T70 6-speed transmisson. Orion has built 5 of them for engineering already.

Needless to say, I have scrapped the idea of getting a 2006 GTP, I'll wait for the 3.6L. ;)

It's not really a secret that the 2007 G6 will have the 3.6L V6 rated at ~270 HP, mated to GM's new 6T70 6-speed transmisson. Orion has built 5 of them for engineering already.

Needless to say, I have scrapped the idea of getting a 2006 GTP, I'll wait for the 3.6L. ;)

But could those be testing mules for the Aura? I know the Aura's getting that powertrain combo.

It's not really a secret that the 2007 G6 will have the 3.6L V6 rated at ~270 HP, mated to GM's new 6T70 6-speed transmisson. Orion has built 5 of them for engineering already.

Needless to say, I have scrapped the idea of getting a 2006 GTP, I'll wait for the 3.6L. ;)

I'm not sure that building 5 of them necessarily indicates it is for the 2007 car. However, the more I hear, the more likely I am going to hold off on a 06 GTP as well.

But could those be testing mules for the Aura? I know the Aura's getting that powertrain combo.


Not likely. Aura mules have already been built at Fairfax (which is where the Aura is going to be built).

Is it safe to assume that the GTP would continue to feature hydraulic power steering even with a new powertrain? In my opinion, the superior steering feel is currently the GTP's best advantage over the GT and base model. I'd hate to see the HPS dropped.

GM Fleet has an "Online Model Guide".

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/dmdindex.htm

Actually, the release date has been changed to March 27.

Still nothing up. :(

GM Fleet has an "Online Model Guide".

http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/dmdindex.htm

Actually, the release date has been changed to March 27.

It's usually April when they release it. I expect we'll see most of the guides up on the 3rd.

Is it safe to assume that the GTP would continue to feature hydraulic power steering even with a new powertrain?
I don't think you have to be concerned.

I'm not sure that building 5 of them necessarily indicates it is for the 2007 car. However, the more I hear, the more likely I am going to hold off on a 06 GTP as well. It is true, that is the powertrain for the 2007 G6.

Not if the LZ4 3500 V6 from the Impala comes into the picture. That boy generates 211hp SAE, has VVT and is ready for flex-fuel.

There were some rumours that it might make it to the Epsilons. The 3500 V6 without the VVT may be phased out.

going from the 3500 to a 3600, how much fuel economy are we going to lose? A mile or two per gallon? Bigger is better, but why not try and make the engines with more horse power like they are doing with the 4 cylinder for the Solstice GXP? Just my opinion.

So, y'all think that both the pushrod engines (3.9 and 3.5) will be dropped? Wow.

So, y'all think that both the pushrod engines (3.9 and 3.5) will be dropped? Wow.

No. The 3.5L (which one, I don't know) and 3.9L will be staying, just being joined by the 3.6L.

Tomorrow.

ok....tomorrow is HERE!!!

where's the beef?

The G6 line is too complicated as it is right now,adding another line will only make things worse. This is how it should be:
1) Base model: 2.4 ECOTEC at 170 HP, no V6 option.
2) GT model: 3.9 V6 at 240 HP.
3) GTP model: 3.6 DOHC bumped to 275 HP.

3 Engine choices are more than enough to satisfy the market. The 3.5 is behind every competitor and should be dropped. Those 3 model choices should play nicely with Mazda and Nissan's 3 models while offering similar top and bottom of the line competiton for the new Camry and current Galant. The Accord would only play to the middle model power wise, but a new one is just around the corner. The next Altima for '07 will probably have an increase as well.


The 3500 is an excellent engine for the power it puts out and gets great gas mileage. I avg 31mpg all summer long and thats not even on the highway.
If anything they should drop the 2.4 ecotec with its low HP and crappy gas mileage. From what I've read here, people are getting lower mileage with the 4 banger than the V6 base.

They should however do something for the GT users other than a lower axle ratio and lower gas mileage.

just my thoughts.

No. The 3.5L (which one, I don't know) and 3.9L will be staying, just being joined by the 3.6L.
You could be right, for all I know, but offering three different V6s seems like at least one too many.

So, y'all think that both the pushrod engines (3.9 and 3.5) will be dropped? Wow. No, just the 3.5L without VVT.

You could be right, for all I know, but offering three different V6s seems like at least one too many.


I agree. If it were me, I would offer the 3.9L and 3.6L. However, this would only be the case if they could get Active Fuel Management to work on the 3.9L (like initially planned). Pontiac is about performance, so if you want good fuel economy...by the Malibu. But that's just my opinion.

It is true, that is the powertrain for the 2007 G6.

Well. I guess I'm not ordering a G6 anytime soon then. I have to hold out and see whats up with this 3.6 deal.

I'm gonna be pissed if they drop a 3.6 DOHC in the '07 GTP... goddamn, I shoulda waited.

Hopefully they won't just because so many people will be pissed off. But then again, perfect reason to do it.

Blah.

I'm gonna be pissed if they drop a 3.6 DOHC in the '07 GTP... goddamn, I shoulda waited. I'm not too happy about that either. :(

Here is some info from gminside news(courtesy of 'hymeballs').

I was incorrect....the 3.9 is being replaced by the 3.6 LY7 engine which actually has near 270 hp in the G6 and gets better gas mileage. all this info is in the engine guide thread recently posted ....its going to be in the Lambdas, Aura, G6, the Caddy's built in Lansing.....

the LY7 engine in the 07' g6 is a 3.6 litre and has more hp and better gas mileage than the current 3.9 (lz9) thats in the current g6's.....this engine is in the smaller Caddy's and is going in the Lambda vehicles.....in the g6 gtp model this engine will get near 270 hp, not sure about the hp for the vert yet though.....also a newer 4 cylinder are piloting

--there are 8,000 verts on order right now.....
--look for in 07' models: a newer sporty interior color package (cant say what yet!) but its nice,
--fusion orange is no longer availible

oh, the new engine is a 6 speed automatic

Here is some info from gminside news(courtesy of 'hymeballs').

I was incorrect....the 3.9 is being replaced by the 3.6 LY7 engine which actually has near 270 hp in the G6 and gets better gas mileage. all this info is in the engine guide thread recently posted ....its going to be in the Lambdas, Aura, G6, the Caddy's built in Lansing.....

the LY7 engine in the 07' g6 is a 3.6 litre and has more hp and better gas mileage than the current 3.9 (lz9) thats in the current g6's.....this engine is in the smaller Caddy's and is going in the Lambda vehicles.....in the g6 gtp model this engine will get near 270 hp, not sure about the hp for the vert yet though.....also a newer 4 cylinder are piloting

--there are 8,000 verts on order right now.....
--look for in 07' models: a newer sporty interior color package (cant say what yet!) but its nice,
--fusion orange is no longer availible

oh, the new engine is a 6 speed automatic


A G6 with more HP, better gas mileage and a 6speed auto should sell like hotcakes. If I know GM though, they will jack the price of the car up accordingly.

A G6 with more HP, better gas mileage and a 6speed auto should sell like hotcakes. If I know GM though, they will jack the price of the car up accordingly.


I wouldn't be so sure. With the new value pricing, I don't expect that they'll jack the price up that much. They will however have to adjust the price for the new powertrain (which is sort of costly to build, but that will change as they are going to use it in several product lines).

I'm sure to achieve the near 270 hp in the GTP, the new fuel injection system(Direct Injection) is being used. With the 3.6L DOHC, the GTP will lose some weight, due to the engine's aluminum block. Also,with the new 6 speed auto,it looks like the 6 speed manual is history. :(

I'm sure to achieve the near 270 hp in the GTP, the new fuel injection system(Direct Injection) is being used. With the 3.6L DOHC, the GTP will lose some weight, due to the engine's aluminum block. Also,with the new 6 speed auto,it looks like the 6 speed manual is history. :(

A 270 HP version of the 3.6L was shown in the Buick Enclave concept and it didn't have direct injection. I had heard hat with direction injection, the 3.6L is good for well over 300 HP.
I'm not sure about the 6-speed manual.

Damn that sucks.

A 270 HP version of the 3.6L was shown in the Buick Enclave concept and it didn't have direct injection. I had heard hat with direction injection, the 3.6L is good for well over 300 HP.
I'm not sure about the 6-speed manual.Ohh, then 270 hp must be from a hotter camshaft. :)

I'm sure to achieve the near 270 hp in the GTP, the new fuel injection system(Direct Injection) is being used. With the 3.6L DOHC, the GTP will lose some weight, due to the engine's aluminum block. Also,with the new 6 speed auto,it looks like the 6 speed manual is history. :(

I doubt it. G6's platform-mate the 9-3 has both 6AT and 6MT. Although those ones are Aisin units, but this proves the 3.6L can be mated to either.

It would be stupid to drop manuals altogether, for a performance brand.

Wow. Now I can't wait to hear the official details. This could be one hot car.

It would be stupid to drop manuals altogether, for a performance brand. True, but the 'Big Picture' shows manuals are not big sellers. :(

....also a newer 4 cylinder are piloting
Well, that's interesting, as well. I wonder if it's just a few more hp, or if it's something exciting like a turbo.

Also,with the new 6 speed auto,it looks like the 6 speed manual is history. :(
And there you have it... GM could finally have a real Japanese competitor on their hands and they find a way to handicap it. Typical. No manual means I won't be looking for another G6. It seems strange to kill the 3900 after just one year, they put a lot into that engine. I guess the minivans and Impala/Monte will still use it, but their days are numbered too. Does the Malibu SS get the 3.6 too?

And there you have it... GM could finally have a real Japanese competitor on their hands and they find a way to handicap it. Typical. No manual means I won't be looking for another G6. It seems strange to kill the 3900 after just one year, they put a lot into that engine. I guess the minivans and Impala/Monte will still use it, but their days are numbered too. Does the Malibu SS get the 3.6 too?

Chill people, no one knows for sure if it will or will not keep the 6MT. If I were to guess, I would say it will (as the one that is in the GTP is currently only used in that application), but I don't know for sure.

Did you read the thread? The 3900 is STAYING as the G6 GT. Not to mention it will be the standard engine in the GM Minivans for 2007.

As far as I know, the Malibu SS will be keeping the 3.9L.

That is how this car should've been touted from day one.

G6 = 4 cylinder
G6 V6= 3.5L
G6 GT= 3.9L
G6 GTP= 3.6L

It would not shock me in the slightest to find out that GM will be dropping the six speed, however, as they will undoubtedly find a way to foil an otherwise amazing competetor to imports.

Well, it seems like there are a lot of contradictory predictions here. Damn, I wish that '07 ordering guide would show up... :rolleyes:

Chill people, no one knows for sure if it will or will not keep the 6MT. If I were to guess, I would say it will (as the one that is in the GTP is currently only used in that application), but I don't know for sure.

Did you read the thread? The 3900 is STAYING as the G6 GT. Not to mention it will be the standard engine in the GM Minivans for 2007.

As far as I know, the Malibu SS will be keeping the 3.9L.
It appears you didn't read: Here is some info from gminside news(courtesy of 'hymeballs').

I was incorrect....the 3.9 is being replaced by the 3.6 LY7 engine which actually has near 270 hp in the G6 and gets better gas mileage. all this info is in the engine guide thread recently posted ....its going to be in the Lambdas, Aura, G6, the Caddy's built in Lansing.....

the LY7 engine in the 07' g6 is a 3.6 litre and has more hp and better gas mileage than the current 3.9 (lz9) thats in the current g6's.....this engine is in the smaller Caddy's and is going in the Lambda vehicles.....in the g6 gtp model this engine will get near 270 hp, not sure about the hp for the vert yet though.....also a newer 4 cylinder are piloting

--there are 8,000 verts on order right now.....
--look for in 07' models: a newer sporty interior color package (cant say what yet!) but its nice,
--fusion orange is no longer availible

oh, the new engine is a 6 speed automatic

If you go waaaay back I was the first to say that the GT SHOULD have the 3900, in no way saying that it is.

If the 3900 goes into the GT, I'm honestly not going to buy another GM car for my next car. I'll end up feeling like they screwed me over.

Not only did I pay more for this car than I should have (before the value pricing came into play), but then they go and reduce the price of the car by another few thousand (essentially) by making the top model into the GT.

BS

If the 3900 goes into the GT, I'm honestly not going to buy another GM car for my next car. I'll end up feeling like they screwed me over.

Not only did I pay more for this car than I should have (before the value pricing came into play), but then they go and reduce the price of the car by another few thousand (essentially) by making the top model into the GT.

BSI bought my GTP during the "Red Tag Sale", but I would still feel cheated if the 3.9L went into the GT. In the article that I posted, it states that only the 3900 is being eliminated and replaced with the 3.6L DOHC. This is for the GTP only. The GT will not get the 3900. We'll just have to wait and see how this plays out. :confused:

If the 3900 goes into the GT, I'm honestly not going to buy another GM car for my next car. I'll end up feeling like they screwed me over.

Not only did I pay more for this car than I should have (before the value pricing came into play), but then they go and reduce the price of the car by another few thousand (essentially) by making the top model into the GT.

BS

I'm pretty sure if it did go that way, there will be adjustments to the pricing. GT will not stay at the price right now.

Similar to what happened to the Grand Prix when the GXP V8 came out.

I agree. If it were me, I would offer the 3.9L and 3.6L. However, this would only be the case if they could get Active Fuel Management to work on the 3.9L (like initially planned). Pontiac is about performance, so if you want good fuel economy...by the Malibu. But that's just my opinion.

If pontiac is all about performance then why do they offer a 2.4L that puts out a lousy 167hp with an avg fuel economy of 26mpg.

I'm all for the bigger engines but they need to put the R&D into them to get the fuel economy up to snuff.
I see 3.8L SC engines that get 28mpg all day long yet the 3.9L has trouble getting 26mpg.

FYI, the malibu is FUGLY imho.

If the 3900 goes into the GT, I'm honestly not going to buy another GM car for my next car. I'll end up feeling like they screwed me over.

Not only did I pay more for this car than I should have (before the value pricing came into play), but then they go and reduce the price of the car by another few thousand (essentially) by making the top model into the GT.

BS

I guess thats one of the perks to being an early adopter. :rolleyes:
I wouldn't be happy if I were in your shoes either.

I guess thats one of the perks to being an early adopter. :rolleyes:
I wouldn't be happy if I were in your shoes either.
I guess I wouldn't be thrilled either, but, rationally, is it really that big of a deal? If you're happy with your current car, what difference does it make if GM makes improvements to new models? On the other hand, if your enjoyment of your current car is truly diminished by the knowledge that a better one is available, then why not just bite the bullet and trade it in for the new one?

It would be insane for GM to adopt the idea that a car should never receive any improvement that would hurt the feelings of previous buyers. GM's mission, especially now, is to attract new buyers. You do that by marketing the best possible car.

GM's mission, especially now, is to attract new buyers. You do that by marketing the best possible car.
Damn right! The G6 should have had 240+ availible from the start. A 200 HP V6 is a complete joke in 2005/6. The closer this car gets feature-wise to the Accord, Camry, and Altima, the better it will sell and GM's reputation will improve. Unfortunately 2007 and 2008 will be tough years to catch up; with the new Altima and Accord coming out and the Camry out now GM is chasing a moving target. At least they are doing something to keep up, unlike how they treated the GA.

It would be insane for GM to adopt the idea that a car should never receive any improvement that would hurt the feelings of previous buyers. GM's mission, especially now, is to attract new buyers. You do that by marketing the best possible car.

However:

GM does not seem to grasp that merely adding more horsepower and torque doesn't make it a vast improvement. The car's handling dynamics and interior quality, as well as their transmission options (and the performacne of those options) are what they need to be focusing on, in my opinion. Pontiac should not be the entry level. It should be the sportier versions only. Im sure they just dont want to cut brand loyalty for those who dont care about performance, but merely want a Pontiac over a Chevy.

The G6 could have been a real winner if they would just put a modern powertrain in it. A 200 hp outdated overhead valve V6 with lousy gas mileage and an ancient 4 speed auto is not competitive. 0-60 in 8 seconds? Almost any V6 equipped mid-size out there can do that with no problem. With quality that is among the worst in the industry, no wonder GM is in serious trouble. They got to get their act together, otherwise I would be forced into driving imports again.

However:

GM does not seem to grasp that merely adding more horsepower and torque doesn't make it a vast improvement. The car's handling dynamics and interior quality, as well as their transmission options (and the performacne of those options) are what they need to be focusing on, in my opinion. Pontiac should not be the entry level. It should be the sportier versions only. Im sure they just dont want to cut brand loyalty for those who dont care about performance, but merely want a Pontiac over a Chevy.

GM is starting to really understand that it takes more than just power increases to make a good performance car. Proof of this is in the new Cadillac STS-V and XLR-V. They both have gotten really good reviews for their overall performance. This is also true the Grand Prix GXP.

Pontiac needs to get their act together. If they don't figure out what market they want to take (up-level Chevrolet or performance icon), there isn't going to be a Pontiac.

The G6 could have been a real winner if they would just put a modern powertrain in it. A 200 hp outdated overhead valve V6 with lousy gas mileage and an ancient 4 speed auto is not competitive. 0-60 in 8 seconds? Almost any V6 equipped mid-size out there can do that with no problem. With quality that is among the worst in the industry, no wonder GM is in serious trouble. They got to get their act together, otherwise I would be forced into driving imports again.

What would you consider good gas mileage in a V6?
OHC engines aren't exactly new technology.
Personally I would rather have OHV for higher torque outputs than a OHC that has higher HP ratings with lower torque ratings.

GM is starting to really understand that it takes more than just power increases to make a good performance car. Proof of this is in the new Cadillac STS-V and XLR-V. They both have gotten really good reviews for their overall performance. This is also true the Grand Prix GXP.

Pontiac needs to get their act together. If they don't figure out what market they want to take (up-level Chevrolet or performance icon), there isn't going to be a Pontiac.

The Grand Prix GXP is nice, don't get me wrong, but where's the stick? Where's teh coupe? Same with the Monte Carlo SS where's the stick? I don't want a V8 heritage car without it.

The Cadillac starts at what? 78k and the XLR is 98k? Most average American's will not be buying these cars.

What does a Civic start at? Mid teens.

GM will have to do that job a little bit better if they hope to even stay in the game.

*** Latest News ***

I just received information regarding the 2007 G6 GTP. The 2007 G6 GTP will feature the 3.6 DOHC V6 and the 6 speed automatic(we know this). The engine is rated at 250 hp and 245 ft/lbs. torque. The 270 hp figure appears to be wishful thinking. There will also be some exterior enhancements, which seems to indicate a different aero package(Body kit). :)

Well, I guess it's a lot more modern and 10 extra HP, but I was hoping that GM would make the car a class leader in at least one area. Now the '06 GTP owner's don't have to get upset, especially the manual transmission guys!

Well, I guess it's a lot more modern and 10 extra HP, but I was hoping that GM would make the car a class leader in at least one area. Now the '06 GTP owner's don't have to get upset, especially the manual transmission guys! To tell you the truth, I think this car will be faster than than the 3.9L with the 6MT. An all Aluminum engine means less weight. The 2007 G6 GTP will be quick. :(

Well, I guess it's a lot more modern and 10 extra HP, but I was hoping that GM would make the car a class leader in at least one area. Now the '06 GTP owner's don't have to get upset, especially the manual transmission guys!

Ha ha. Yeah, I'm less upset. However if the new body kit is from those GXP pics from a few years ago i will be more upset again. We'll see.

Just an FYI..

GM will be displaying a new G6 GXP Showcar at the upcoming New York autoshow. The car will be powered by a 270 HP version of the 3.9L V6.

This is straight from GM.

250 horsepower?

What a joke.

It better be one hell of a looker or a performer (and by performance, I mean not in a straight line) if it wants me to even consider it.

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I just received information regarding the 2007 G6 GTP. The 2007 G6 GTP will feature the 3.6 DOHC V6 and the 6 speed automatic(we know this). The engine is rated at 250 hp and 245 ft/lbs. torque. The 270 hp figure appears to be wishful thinking. There will also be some exterior enhancements, which seems to indicate a different aero package(Body kit). :)

I hope they don't rice up the coupe with some ugly body kit. It would spoil an otherwise classy car.

Well, I guess it's a lot more modern and 10 extra HP, but I was hoping that GM would make the car a class leader in at least one area. Now the '06 GTP owner's don't have to get upset, especially the manual transmission guys!

A lot more modern? OHC has been out since 1912 or something.
Personally I would rather have an OHV because they are less complex and more reliable. Not to mention they are smaller in size physically.

A lot more modern? OHC has been out since 1912 or something.
Personally I would rather have an OHV because they are less complex and more reliable. Not to mention they are smaller in size physically.


People could argue either side all day, but doesn't the fact that pretty much EVERY engine manufacturer has gone to OHC tell you something? I have nothing against a well designed OHV engine, but unfortunately GM doesn't put their best work in every car.

Just an FYI..

GM will be displaying a new G6 GXP Showcar at the upcoming New York autoshow. The car will be powered by a 270 HP version of the 3.9L V6.

This is straight from GM. That particular motor was in testing about a year ago. The motor has ported/polished heads and a high performance cam. This G6 GXP was first displayed late last year. I am going to the to the New York Auto Show, so I will check it out.

250 horsepower?

What a joke.

It better be one hell of a looker or a performer (and by performance, I mean not in a straight line) if it wants me to even consider it. I'm sure it will be quicker and handle a bit better than the '06 G6 GTP.

I hope they don't rice up the coupe with some ugly body kit. It would spoil an otherwise classy car.
I agree 100%. I hope that this "body kit" is merely an option rather than standard on the GTP.

To tell you the truth, I think this car will be faster than than the 3.9L with the 6MT. An all Aluminum engine means less weight. The 2007 G6 GTP will be quick. :(
You are probably right, but where's the fun to go with the performance in an automatic? I know the 3.6 has never been offered with a stick in any car, but I was hoping GM could find a way.


Edit: Originally forgot about CTS 6 speed option.

You are probably right, but where's the fun to go with the performance in an automatic? I know the 3.6 has never been offered with a stick in any car, but I was hoping GM could find a way.

The 3.6L comes standard with the Aisin AY6 6-speed manual in the 2006 CTS (I just double-checked).

Problem is...that transmission is a rear-wheel drive transmission, so it would not work in the G6. However, I still say the F40 (in the GTP) will work with the 3.6L in the G6. Generally a transmission will work with different engines, just as long as the engine is mounted the same way and are powering the same wheels.

However, I still say the F40 (in the GTP) will work with the 3.6L in the G6. Generally a transmission will work with different engines, just as long as the engine is mounted the same way and are powering the same wheels. The F40 6 MT would have to be beefed up up to handle more horsepower.

You are probably right, but where's the fun to go with the performance in an automatic? I know the 3.6 has never been offered with a stick in any car, but I was hoping GM could find a way.

uhh...the 3.6 comes standard with a 6spd in the CTS. :rolleyes:


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sorry didn't see post above.

uhh...the 3.6 comes standard with a 6spd in the CTS. :rolleyes:


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sorry didn't see post above.

Problem is CTS is rear wheel drive, mounted longitudinally. It's an Aisin unit. The ones in the GTP now are FGP units, mounted traversally.

The 3.6L comes standard with the Aisin AY6 6-speed manual in the 2006 CTS (I just double-checked).

Problem is...that transmission is a rear-wheel drive transmission, so it would not work in the G6. However, I still say the F40 (in the GTP) will work with the 3.6L in the G6. Generally a transmission will work with different engines, just as long as the engine is mounted the same way and are powering the same wheels.

And can handle the torque conversion.

Problem is CTS is rear wheel drive, mounted longitudinally. It's an Aisin unit. The ones in the GTP now are FGP units, mounted traversally.

Yeah I hear ya. I wasn't saying it would work in the G6. I was just saying that there is a 3.6L mounted to a 6spd manual as ben said it didn't exist.

A RWD G6 would be pretty cool though. :cool:

The F40 6 MT would have to be beefed up up to handle more horsepower.


From what I've read about the F40, it needs more than a beefing up. I would take the 6T70 automatic before I would take that F40.

Here's the spec sheet for the F40:

http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en/product_services/Spec%20Sheets/Transmissions/2006%20Manuals/2006%20F40%20%28MT2%29.pdf

It's quite brief though.

Saab 9-3 Aero has another F40, different RPO. No datasheet for it though. But my guess it's an Aisin unit. Probably this one can do a bit more, since the Aero has a 2.8T which does 250hp and 258 lb-ft.

The 3.6 simply uses bored out heads and a more aggressive cam setup. I've seen the models in Auburn Hills Michigan.

Man if that 3.6 does come out that will be my next car after my lease is up.

Though its good to hear GM is putting the 3.6 and 6 speed auto in the G6, i am curious about when they are going to outfit the 3.9 with DOD. Anybody heard anything about that?

Okay, so up until this point everything that has been posted has been either rumors or supposed insider information. Does anyone with the insider information know when some official information will be released? I'm on the edge of my seat waiting to see what actually materializes for 2007. I want to know if I can sit back and wait a couple months, or wheter or not I should keep scouring the net every day for official word.
Post a link if you actually find something from GM.

Still no official word?

Still no official word? No official word yet, but I would think there will be some news in about 2-3 weeks. 2007 production will be starting in June.

I can't vouch for its accuracy, but cheersandgears.com has some new info:
http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7828

I can't vouch for its accuracy, but cheersandgears.com has some new info:
http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7828
If that is correct about the "GT Performance Package", I feel truly cheated. :(

Pros:
-Standard ABS
-Hydraulic Steering on all models (fixes [in GM's way] the lock up problem)
-6 speed automatic (its about damn time)
-Heated cloth seats (never heard of this!)
-Whatever that OnStar thing is?
-New Rims
-New Performance Packages

Cons:
-3.6L 250 horsepower engine (too bad its only 10 more than the 3.9L...sad GM)
-Black rims (ick, tasteless)

EDIT: Misread. He posted the wrong numbers. The V6 3.6L has 250, and the GXP (which is too ugly to be purchased) has the 280 or 290 horsepower engine)

Sorry, but 6-speed Auto is only available on the GTP with the 3.6L.

As for the 250HP 3.6L, that's why the 3.9 is getting detuned to 227 on all models.

And current GTP owners, I think the GT Peformance package will be priced the same as the current GTP, as the new GTP will be much more expensive. The only difference is the GTP badging on the outside.

I seriously doubt the heated cloth seats, I've never heard of any company having them as a factory option. I really hope the price doesn't increase any more, GM needs to retain some extra value compared to the competition. Standard curtain airbags are a great feature, too bad the major players also include the seat mounted bags standard too... OnStar navigation is a joke and should be a temporary thing until GM can get a real navi system in there... like the competition. Hydrualic steering is great and the new transmission is nice, but its avalibility on only the top of the line is sad.

...that's why the 3.9 is getting detuned to 227 on all models.I think the other post indicated that HP for 3.9 is on the convertible model. That HP same as for 2006 model and due to exhaust restriction on convertible because of the extra bracing underneath

I seriously doubt the heated cloth seats, I've never heard of any company having them as a factory option. The Malibu added cloth heated seats option in 2005 model. Likely to make that feature available to other models since prior to that the heated seats were only available as standard equipment on uplevel model with "ultralux" seats

The Malibu added cloth heated seats option in 2005 model. Likely to make that feature available to other models since prior to that the heated seats were only available as standard equipment on uplevel model with "ultralux" seats

The torrent has cloth heated seats as well.

The Malibu added cloth heated seats option in 2005 model. Likely to make that feature available to other models since prior to that the heated seats were only available as standard equipment on uplevel model with "ultralux" seats
Well I'll be damned! How much does it cost to get heated cloth seats as an option? I'd like that in my next car. The main reason I like leather is just so I can get butt warmers.

Edit: $450 on the Malibu in a package that also includes a power driver seat. More money than I would want to pay :( I'd go for them if they were a $ 250 dollar option. I don't care about a power seat.

Well I'll be damned! How much does it cost to get heated cloth seats as an option? I'd like that in my next car. The main reason I like leather is just so I can get butt warmers.

Edit: $450 on the Malibu in a package that also includes a power driver seat. More money than I would want to pay :( I'd go for them if they were a $ 250 dollar option. I don't care about a power seat.

Thats not too bad....the torrent requires a $1600 package before you have the $250 option for heated cloth seats.

If the GXP ends up looking as silly as the concept, I'll just go for the 250hp GTP. And it'll more than likely be a coupe too...

not too sure why a V6 would need DOD

To save gas?

You won't be seeing DOD on the 3.9L V6.

I agree

not too sure why a V6 would need DOD
So far Honda is the only manufacturer using cylinder deactivation on a V6 (Odyssey and Accord Hybrid). More vehicles (V6 +) will be getting this technology in the near future. Anything to save some gas is a good thing.

So far Honda is the only manufacturer using cylinder deactivation on a V6 (Odyssey and Accord Hybrid). More vehicles (V6 +) will be getting this technology in the near future. Anything to save some gas is a good thing. For GM V6 engines, I think 'Direct Injection' will be the new technology. :)

^ DI is also a good thing, Toyota's new engines are benefitting from it now and Audi/VW have had a lot of success with it. It doesn't really save much fuel though... But we get more power out of it!

When a 3.9L V6 is getting roughly the same fuel economy as a GTO or Trans Am or an engine with a V8....you cuold use DOD.

That's one reason I'm slowly shying away from the GTP.

When a 3.9L V6 is getting roughly the same fuel economy as a GTO or Trans Am or an engine with a V8....you cuold use DOD.

That's one reason I'm slowly shying away from the GTP.


If they really end up putting a 3.6 in it you wont have to worry about it.

Okay, kids, the '07 ordering guide is up.
http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/proddesc.jsp?year=2007&butID=1&regionID=1&divisionID=7&vehicleID=3421&type=0#

Nice Catch - I think you have to do the whole "print book" function (40 pages) to see all the option information. But it provides it in PDF format at least.

A few observations:
There is now a "sport package" for several models which provides a powertrain upgrade for the G6 sedan and all GT models. That upgrade on GT is how you get the existing 3.9L engine with 6 speed manual trans.

Electric Power Steering now just on vehicles with 4 cylinder engine

There is no longer a GTP model for convertible (you can't get the new 3.6 on convertible). You can get the 3.9 with auto trans.

The 4 cylinder is now base engine on G6 model as well as being on the base model "value leader". Not sure if this means you can get options with 4 cylinder not previously available or not.

Very interesting. Thank you for the updates!

Anyone know what the price changes are going to be, or what the EPA estimates for this 3600 engine are?

what the EPA estimates for this 3600 engine are?
18/27 (according to the press release for the Saturn Aura which has the same powertrain).

Hi guys,
I'm new to this forum, just joined to let everyone knmow 2 awesome things happenning with the G6...

1.) You already mentioned the print book, here are all the "quick" details...

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Pontiac G6

Deletions


2ZM67 GTP Convertible model
Exterior color (46U) Stealth Gray Metallic
(PCI) Driver's Package
(PDD) Convenience Package
(PCH) Premium Value Package
(PED) Premium Value Package 2
(PF9) 16" (40.6 cm) cast aluminum wheels
(LX9) 3.5L V6 SFI engine (replaced by [LZ4] 3.5L V6 SFI engine

New Features


(P22) 17" (43.2 cm) custom 5-spoke, high-vent wheels
Exterior color (78U) Blue-Gold Crystal Metallic
2ZF69 1SA model becomes the 2ZG69 model
The old G6-6CYL model becomes the (PDX) Sport Package on 2ZG69 G6 model
(LZ4) 3.5L V6 SFI engine (Sedan and Coupe 224 hp [167.0 kW] @ 5800 rpm, 220 lb-ft of torque [297.7 N-m] @ 4000 rpm) (Convertible 217 hp [162.1] @ 5800 rpm, 217 lb-ft of torque [293.6 N-m] @ 4000 rpm)
(LY7) 3.6L V6 SFI engine (252 hp [188.0 kW] @ 6300 rpm, 251 lb-ft of torque [340.0 N-m] @ 3200 rpm)
(MH2) 6-speed automatic transmission
(D70) 2.77 axle ratio
(AY1) Dual-stage, frontal, driver and right front passenger and head curtain side-impact air bags (standard on Sedan and Coupe only)
(QAD) P225/50R17 blackwall touring tires
(PCM) Preferred Package, includes (AP9) cargo net, (AP3) Remote vehicle starter system and (B37) front and rear carpeted floor mats
(PCQ) Premium Package, includes leather-appointed front bucket seats (GT), leather-appointed front bucket seats with two-tone leather inserts (GTP), (AG1) 6-way power driver seat adjuster (GT), (KA1) heated, driver and front passenger seats, (AP3) Remote vehicle starter system, (AP9) cargo net, (B37) front and rear carpeted floor mats and (U2K) XM Satellite Radio (Convertible only)
(PDX) Sport Package, G6 Sedan model includes (LZ4) 3.5L V6 SFI engine, (PFF) 17" (43.2 cm) 5-spoke aluminum painted wheels, (F83) 3.05 axle ratio, (J65) 4-wheel disc brakes, Hydraulic Power Steering (HPS), front fog lamps and (T43) rear spoiler
(PDX) Sport Package, GT Sedan and GT Coupe models include (LZ9) 3.9L V6 SFI engine, dual chrome tip exhaust outlets, (FX3) StabiliTrak, (NW5) 18" (45.7 cm) 5-spoke, flangeless painted aluminum wheels, (QYH) P225/50R18 touring blackwall tires, (MT2) 6-speed manual transmission and (T43) rear spoiler (Sedan only)
(PDX) Sport Package, Convertible model includes (LZ9) 3.9L 3900 V6 SFI engine, exhaust outlets with dual chrome tips, (FX3) StabiliTrak, (NW2) 18" (45.7 cm) 5-spoke flangeless ultra-bright alloy wheels (M15) 4-speed automatic transmission, (FR3) 3.69 axle ratio, (C68) front automatic air conditioning and (AG1) 6-way power driver seat adjuster
(PDE) Sun and Sound Package, includes (UN0) AM/FM stereo with CD player (G6), (UC6) AM/FM stereo with 6-disc CD changer (GT and GTP), (CF5) power sunroof and (T43) rear spoiler (GT Sedan only). On Sedan models, (CF5) power sunroof is upgradeable to (C3Y) power Panoramic roof.
(DD7) Inside rearview electrochromic mirror with compass display

Changes


Vortex Cloth replaces Link Cloth on interior colors (19B) Ebony and (70D) Light Taupe
Transmission codes have been changed: (MN5) 4-speed automatic transmission, electronically controlled with overdrive, includes manual shift mode on 2ZH69, 2ZH37 and 2ZH67 models, (M15) 4-speed automatic transmission, electronically controlled with overdrive, includes manual shift mode, (MH2) 6-speed automatic transmission, electronically controlled with overdrive, includes manual shift mode and (MU9) 6-speed manual transmission. (MX0) has been removed.
Hydraulic Power Steering (HPS) now standard on GT models
Click on the blue links to change image
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2.) Starting with the 2007 model year the Impala will come with the 3.9L with DoD. This means that perhaps the DoD 3.9L will become standard equipment on a GT by 2008.

These changes will make the G6 much more competetive...

^ They not only make it more competitive, but more complicated to order as well. Why the hell do we need 4 separate engine and transmission choices? A 10 HP difference between top GT and GTP models isn't all that big of a deal. The lack of the DOHC engine on the convertible (the most expensive model) is surprising. It looks like GM got 80% of the way there and quit. By the time this car is finally optimized against the competition it will be time to start over and bring out an all new model. It will be interesting to see if sales jump or if people look at the specs and wonder where GM's ability to manage powertrains went.

Looking over the changes, it appears the 2006 G6 GTP with 6 MT will be quicker than the 2007 G6 GTP. The 6 speed auto with its 2.77:1 axle ratio, is geared toward fuel economy, rather than speed. The torque comes in sooner with the '06 GTP and has a wider powerband than the '07 GTP. Also, there is no 'Summer Tire Only' option on the '07 GTP. This seems to indicate that this GTP will be shod with "T" or "H" rated tires. The '07 GTP looks to be limited to about 125 mph. The car has more horsepower, but a lower top end. The GT 'Sport Packages' are the hot ticket. You have the 3.9L V6 with 6 MT and you can opt for the 'W' rated Bridgestones(this saddens me).

^ Could it be that the summer tire option is missing because the info posted is for fleet sales? I don't know of many fleet vehicles that would have a need for performance tires.

^ Could it be that the summer tire option is missing because the info posted is for fleet sales? I don't know of many fleet vehicles that would have a need for performance tires.
Interesting theory, but probably wrong. The '06 ordering guide on the same site includes the summer tires.
http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/proddesc.jsp?year=2006&regionID=1&divisionID=7&type=0&vehicleID=2374&section=oi_def&page=4&butID=3

The fact that the summer tires are gone from the '07 ordering guide probably just means that they're gone.

^ Heh, oh well. You can always get them aftermarket anyway.

^ Heh, oh well. You can always get them aftermarket anyway. You could, but you won't have the enhanced ECM. So, you will have 'W' rated tires on a car that can barely top 120 mph. :(

Interesting theory, but probably wrong. The '06 ordering guide on the same site includes the summer tires.
http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/NASApp/domestic/proddesc.jsp?year=2006&regionID=1&divisionID=7&type=0&vehicleID=2374&section=oi_def&page=4&butID=3

The fact that the summer tires are gone from the '07 ordering guide probably just means that they're gone. You can get the 'Summer Tire' option with the 'GT Sport packages'.

Am I missing something, or is the GTP not really much of an improvement over the GT with the 3.9? Also, anyone heard about the interior? Is it going to be exactly the same, or have they made it a bit nicer? I'm worried the GTP is now going to be approaching 30k, and at that price I would probably just save up for the new BMW 3 Series coupe, at 40k its getting up there, but its a giant leap over the Pontiac. A car approaching 30k$ should have a much nicer interior than the current GTP does. I hope they've tweaked it somehow.

Am I missing something, or is the GTP not really much of an improvement over the GT with the 3.9? Also, anyone heard about the interior? Is it going to be exactly the same, or have they made it a bit nicer? Performance wise, it is not much of an improvement. The 3.6L DOHC is a better motor than the 3.9L . The 3.6L DOHC has more performance capability, should GM decide to tweak for more horsepower in the future. From all indications, the interior is virtually unchanged for 2007.

Has anyone found/heard any information on the 2007 G6? I've scoured the net but haven't been able to find anything. Since quite a few 07 vehicles have already been publically released, it shouldn't be all that long until we hear something. I just don't want to go buy one and then find out they put 270 HP DOHC engine in it for 2007. I'm thinking of ordering a coupe. I don't want to wait, because I've never driven an stick and would want all summer to get it down before winter arrives, but I'd hold off for a year if I knew something great was coming. So if you've heard any snippet, please post.

from gm news -
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2007 G6 Changes

Deletions

2ZM67 GTP Convertible model
Exterior color (46U) Stealth Gray Metallic
(PCI) Driver's Package
(PDD) Convenience Package
(PCH) Premium Value Package
(PED) Premium Value Package 2
(PF9) 16" (40.6 cm) cast aluminum wheels
(LX9) 3.5L V6 SFI engine (replaced by [LZ4] 3.5L V6 SFI engine

New Features

(P22) 17" (43.2 cm) custom 5-spoke, high-vent wheels
Exterior color (78U) Blue-Gold Crystal Metallic
2ZF69 1SA model becomes the 2ZG69 model
The old G6-6CYL model becomes the (PDX) Sport Package on 2ZG69 G6 model
(LZ4) 3.5L V6 SFI engine (Sedan and Coupe 224 hp [167.0 kW] @ 5800 rpm, 220 lb-ft of torque [297.7 N-m] @ 4000 rpm) (Convertible 217 hp [162.1] @ 5800 rpm, 217 lb-ft of torque [293.6 N-m] @ 4000 rpm)
(LY7) 3.6L V6 SFI engine (252 hp [188.0 kW] @ 6300 rpm, 251 lb-ft of torque [340.0 N-m] @ 3200 rpm)
(MH2) 6-speed automatic transmission
(D70) 2.77 axle ratio
(AY1) Dual-stage, frontal, driver and right front passenger and head curtain side-impact air bags (standard on Sedan and Coupe only)
(QAD) P225/50R17 blackwall touring tires
(PCM) Preferred Package, includes (AP9) cargo net, (AP3) Remote vehicle starter system and (B37) front and rear carpeted floor mats
(PCQ) Premium Package, includes leather-appointed front bucket seats (GT), leather-appointed front bucket seats with two-tone leather inserts (GTP), (AG1) 6-way power driver seat adjuster (GT), (KA1) heated, driver and front passenger seats, (AP3) Remote vehicle starter system, (AP9) cargo net, (B37) front and rear carpeted floor mats and (U2K) XM Satellite Radio (Convertible only)
(PDX) Sport Package, G6 Sedan model includes (LZ4) 3.5L V6 SFI engine, (PFF) 17" (43.2 cm) 5-spoke aluminum painted wheels, (F83) 3.05 axle ratio, (J65) 4-wheel disc brakes, Hydraulic Power Steering (HPS), front fog lamps and (T43) rear spoiler
(PDX) Sport Package, GT Sedan and GT Coupe models include (LZ9) 3.9L V6 SFI engine, dual chrome tip exhaust outlets, (FX3) StabiliTrak, (NW5) 18" (45.7 cm) 5-spoke, flangeless painted aluminum wheels, (QYH) P225/50R18 touring blackwall tires, (MT2) 6-speed manual transmission and (T43) rear spoiler (Sedan only)
(PDX) Sport Package, Convertible model includes (LZ9) 3.9L 3900 V6 SFI engine, exhaust outlets with dual chrome tips, (FX3) StabiliTrak, (NW2) 18" (45.7 cm) 5-spoke flangeless ultra-bright alloy wheels (M15) 4-speed automatic transmission, (FR3) 3.69 axle ratio, (C68) front automatic air conditioning and (AG1) 6-way power driver seat adjuster
(PDE) Sun and Sound Package, includes (UN0) AM/FM stereo with CD player (G6), (UC6) AM/FM stereo with 6-disc CD changer (GT and GTP), (CF5) power sunroof and (T43) rear spoiler (GT Sedan only). On Sedan models, (CF5) power sunroof is upgradeable to (C3Y) power Panoramic roof.
(DD7) Inside rearview electrochromic mirror with compass display

Changes

Vortex Cloth replaces Link Cloth on interior colors (19B) Ebony and (70D) Light Taupe
Transmission codes have been changed: (MN5) 4-speed automatic transmission, electronically controlled with overdrive, includes manual shift mode on 2ZH69, 2ZH37 and 2ZH67 models, (M15) 4-speed automatic transmission, electronically controlled with overdrive, includes manual shift mode, (MH2) 6-speed automatic transmission, electronically controlled with overdrive, includes manual shift mode and (MU9) 6-speed manual transmission. (MX0) has been removed.
Hydraulic Power Steering (HPS) now standard on GT models

Oh wow, they are ditching the Stealth Gray color? I'm even more glad that I got that color. Other than that, sucks to be an owner of a 2006 GTP.

Now that I've seen the specs, I don't view the 2007 GTP as a threat. More HP/Tq, yeah, but it has less aggressive gearing.

The 3.9/M6 should hold up to it. :)

Nothing we can do about it, well I guess you could trade in for one. But nothing I can do about it.

I would have hoped they didn't change it for a few years though.

With no GTP offered for the convertible in 07 along with the fact that only a fraction of the 06 convertibles were GTP's all but insures an instant classic for 2006 GTP Convertible owners. My guess is the GTP in convertible form was a loss leader and to keep it in the line-up for 07 would have pushed its price over $35,000 which is contrary to Pontiac's marketing focus for the convertible as the only folding hardtop available under $30,000.00. Any of you "insiders" able to confirm exactly how many convertible GTP's have been built and/or ordered as of now? It is my understanding that absent already promised orders with allocations the factory isn't taking any more orders on the 2006 convertibles since the 07's should be available by August. In following EBAY listings I note that the GTP convertibles are being described as "rare" and only a handful were available in various regions to include Chicagoland and Florida. California may have gotten a bigger slice of the pie though.

^ The reason the GTP 'vert is going away is because for '07 all GTP's will get the 3.6 DOHC engine mated to a 6 speed auto. For some reason GM couldn't get all that to fit in the convertible, probably due to exhaust routing problems and other space issues. But the '07 GT 'vert will gain some extra horses.

I assume that the GT 'vert in '07 will allow the GTPerformance package, with the 3900?

^ I would seriously doubt the 3900 option appearing on the '07 convertible. With the '06 3900 spec'ed at just 227 horses (in the 'vert) and the 3500 being bumped to about 224 for '07, and since the manual transmission isn't availible on the convertible I don't see the 3900 performance package being used in the convertible in '07.

The 2007 order guide indicated 3.9L is part of the PDX Sport Package on Convertible.

^ I stand corrected, but would hope the 3900 would put out more than it does for '06 if the 3500 is getting a bump for '07.

What a friggen mess they made of this thing, good friggen job GM! I'm sooo happy I got an 06 GTP, why the hell would they drop the manual option in the GTP :rolleyes: You can keep your 12 horses, I'll stick with my 3900 GTP.

i see a 6 speed auto--but a lower axel ratio--why do they do that-

My '06 & '07 G6 Convertible Adventures...

http://www.g6performance.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2456&highlight=

i see a 6 speed auto--but a lower axel ratio--why do they do that-GM did that to balance performance with fuel economy. The gear ratios are actually nicely spaced.

GM did that to balance performance with fuel economy. The gear ratios are actually nicely spaced.
There is no doubt in my mind that the 3.6 will get better Fuel eco lol God help us if it doesn’t

^Only if GM goes bankrupt.

2007 is the last year for the G6
You'd better cite some source before you lose all credibility.

Has anyone found/heard any information on the 2007 G6? I've scoured the net but haven't been able to find anything. Since quite a few 07 vehicles have already been publically released, it shouldn't be all that long until we hear something. I just don't want to go buy one and then find out they put 270 HP DOHC engine in it for 2007. I'm thinking of ordering a coupe. I don't want to wait, because I've never driven an stick and would want all summer to get it down before winter arrives, but I'd hold off for a year if I knew something great was coming. So if you've heard any snippet, please post.
i went and test drove the 2007 convertible G6 GTP today. It is beautiful, looks alot like the 2006 but the a/c dials are different. i'll be ordering a 2007 G6 gtp sedan in a couple of weeks. i drive the 2006 g6 v6 right now and it's nice but they now have a color called gold blue crystal mettalic and it is so beautiful. the get up and go is great for a car in that price range.

I'll be a little upset if the '07 has standard side airbags, but I won't care that much. I'll be really upset if the GTP has a 270 hp engine. Unless the price tag is higher than the '06.
the website says the gtp has 254 but the salesman today said they really have 240 hp. i can't wait to order my new one. they will surely get up and go when you want to. check out the new color for the g6 this year...gold blue crystal metallic

You'd better cite some source before you lose all credibility.

nah it's cool...he has friends who draw stuff, and since they haven't drawn a 2008 G6 they aren't going to be built. at least that is his explanation in his other posts :rolleyes: