I've read every intake and exhaust thread on this site and still have a few questions about both.


Firstly, the intake. K&N makes a replacement drop-in filter for our cars. Why aren't those used as much as an open element cone? I would think that the engine heat alone would negate the extra flow....I've had this discussion many times about my truck (I have an open-element K&N filter on my Bronco) and it's a general consensus that it would have been better for me to go with the drop-in, due to less heat from the engine and more directed flow from the stock box.

Now to the exhaust...

I want to make my car sound like it's got some balls. I do NOT want it to sound like a little ricer 4 banger with a 17" coffee can on the back of it. I also don't want it to sound like my truck (which sounds good...but not on a car). I want it to have an agressive, deep tone but I don't know where to go to get that, or even if I can with a small V6 like mine. Can it be done? I want to take the resonator off (now that I have figured out what exactly it is) and put one of those mangaflow 14266 mufflers that everyone has, but I can't find a sound clip to save my life here. I'd like to hear it before I chuck the money down, so if anyone has a G6 GT without a resonator with this muffler, or any other muffler for that matter, please post it here. I'd like to get a general idea of how my car is going to sound with an aftermarket muffler.

Note that I do not want to spend tons of cash on this. I'm a college student on a very low wage and cannot afford a completely new exhaust system (no headers, high-flow cat, or aftermarket Y pipe for me).


Thanks everyone.

P.S. - How can I tell if my car has a 6-CD changer in it? I could have swore I saw the numbers 123456 lined up in the lower left hand corner of the display but I am thinking it's a single CD because I have no buttons to swap CDs, to load mulitple cds, etc.

Can't help you on the exhaust, but the CD changer should be there if you have 1-2-3-4-5-6 displayed (very small) in the lower left of the DIC. Also, the steering wheel controls on the right hand side should include a 1-6 button to shuffle between CDs in the CD mode, radio station presets in radio mode. While in CD mode, push buttons 1 through 6 on the stereo (double as radio presets) to shuffle between discs to load and unload. Be prepared, loading and unloading CDs is a slow PITA, but until a better solution to the MP3 situation comes out than FM modulators, it's still better than a sinle CD changer... Hope that helps

A single-CD unit is a CD player, not a changer. My bad. I'll take care of it...


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There, I feel better. Welcome to the forum :beer:

Well I don't have radio controls on the steering wheel. Is that a way to tell?

I just looked again, I'm not crazy. There are the numbers down there and there are also a stack of CD's on the upper left hand corner of the display.


HOW THE HELL do I put another CD in?! I can't believe I'm stumped by a CD player and I build computers all day :\

Press a 1-6 radio button and press the Load button (in CD mode.) The current cd playing should be underlined in those tiny red numbers. Press 2, should say no CD, press load, and it should say wait loading cd 2 then ready or ok or load cd 2, something like that. It's counterintuitive, but you'll get it (if you have the changer.)

press the load button if there is no load button there is no changer. Load will change it from cd to cd.

Don't think I have a load button....


Do they use the same display on all players?


Edit: Nope. I don't have a load button. My CD insert slot is above the display, and I think the 6-cd changers have the slot below the display.

Wow I'm kinda pissed now, I thought I had something I didn't.

Are u looking to get a Dual exhaust?
Like the gtp or keep the single outlet?
If u take out the resonator and get the magnoflow i think that would be fine and sound way better! I have heard clips of this before. But you wont really get that much of a performance gain if at all not sure if that is something u are looking for as well i will see if i can find some clips i dont want to post clips that i didnt make or get permission.

Yes, I want to get the GTP fascia and get duals from the muffler.

I hear everyone saying it sounds great, but people have different preferences and I'd like to hear it myself, I have been looking all day and can't find one with our engine size though :(

I am looking to do the same thing!
I am getting this exhaust called Gt-r.
I will see if i can get some sort of clip have u heard of this?

I've heard of it, haven't heard it yet but I know it's really expensive. I'm looking at a muffler (around 120ish is what I have seen), $20 for cutting out the resonator and straight-piping it, and then however much he'll want to charge me for installation of the muffler.

I saw at the Pontiac parts house Saturday that GM now makes a catback performance exhaust you can order (it's not cheap). GM says its aggressive, but within Federal noise limits. It was for the 3.5, and I just wonder it'd work with the 3.9, or maybe they'll make one for the 3.9 next?

the magnaflow catback exhaust system gives your car a deep rumble thats loud but not too loud. dont know how loud you want it to be though. it does add some kick to your horsepower too.

Now i want to replace mine!

im thinking of buying a magnaflow single in single out, replace the resignator with straight pipe and running it out the side infront of the drivers back tire....

I bought a cherry bomb turbo muffler and it sounds great. Not loud at all and has no ricey sound. It has a nice mellow tone. Only costed 35 bucks on ebay. Centered it out with dual outlets. I'll have pics later

I bought a cherry bomb turbo muffler and it sounds great. Not loud at all and has no ricey sound. It has a nice mellow tone. Only costed 35 bucks on ebay. Centered it out with dual outlets. I'll have pics later

any way we can hear it?

I like mine alot its the gt-r exhaust

nah. don't know how to put up sound clips. sry. as far as the gtr goes, i don't believe anything loud belongs on a 6 banger. juz my opinion but its pointless.

nah. don't know how to put up sound clips. sry. as far as the gtr goes, i don't believe anything loud belongs on a 6 banger. juz my opinion but its pointless.

I agree, I'll check youtube someone may have the sound there.

I too am looking for an exhaust for my 07 gtp, and have heard the magnaflow, has an issue where the internals fall out...? Whether this is true or not, I don't know...I was told by one shop that Borla is the way to go...

I called borla about a catback exhaust the other day, they dont have anything for the g6

I've read every intake and exhaust thread on this site and still have a few questions about both.


Firstly, the intake. K&N makes a replacement drop-in filter for our cars. Why aren't those used as much as an open element cone? I would think that the engine heat alone would negate the extra flow....I've had this discussion many times about my truck (I have an open-element K&N filter on my Bronco) and it's a general consensus that it would have been better for me to go with the drop-in, due to less heat from the engine and more directed flow from the stock box.

Now to the exhaust...

I want to make my car sound like it's got some balls. I do NOT want it to sound like a little ricer 4 banger with a 17" coffee can on the back of it. I also don't want it to sound like my truck (which sounds good...but not on a car). I want it to have an agressive, deep tone but I don't know where to go to get that, or even if I can with a small V6 like mine. Can it be done? I want to take the resonator off (now that I have figured out what exactly it is) and put one of those mangaflow 14266 mufflers that everyone has, but I can't find a sound clip to save my life here. I'd like to hear it before I chuck the money down, so if anyone has a G6 GT without a resonator with this muffler, or any other muffler for that matter, please post it here. I'd like to get a general idea of how my car is going to sound with an aftermarket muffler.

Note that I do not want to spend tons of cash on this. I'm a college student on a very low wage and cannot afford a completely new exhaust system (no headers, high-flow cat, or aftermarket Y pipe for me).


Thanks everyone.

P.S. - How can I tell if my car has a 6-CD changer in it? I could have swore I saw the numbers 123456 lined up in the lower left hand corner of the display but I am thinking it's a single CD because I have no buttons to swap CDs, to load mulitple cds, etc.

I got the six disc and if you have the 6 disc there will be a load button right next to the CD slot on the left if there isnt then there isnt a changer.

Firstly, the intake. K&N makes a replacement drop-in filter for our cars. Why aren't those used as much as an open element cone? I would think that the engine heat alone would negate the extra flow....I've had this discussion many times about my truck (I have an open-element K&N filter on my Bronco) and it's a general consensus that it would have been better for me to go with the drop-in, due to less heat from the engine and more directed flow from the stock box.




From my personal experience data logging my ZX2, once you get moving more than 10 mph, any type of cold air, blocked off air, whatever intake is pretty much a negligible gain. On a day that the temps were around 70, The max the IAT sensor read was 75. Definitely not leaps and bounds above ambient, for an intake that was right behind my radiator pretty much. Granted, the ZX2 is a pretty cool engine, so heat isn't a huge issue.

Either way, getting more air is more important than getting "cool" air from outside the engine compartment. Shorter intake paths generally tend to favor higher rpms, and that's where I like my power. So that's what I would go with.

Holy Thread revival Batman!!

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/lampooner/Emoticons/ohshit.gif

I've just been doing some reading... I just joined, so there is a lot of old posts I've been going over. :P

Post away.....I need enlightenment.

Well in talking to one shop that was mentioned by three others in my area, magnaflow is the way to go. Now the question I have to answer is, one muffler or two, and pay the extra to have the second one mounted.
What to do...?

not a 6 disk player...
http://media.automotive.com/izmo/pix_320/pontiac/g6/2008/4sa/audiosystem.jpg

My first exhaust replacement was a flow through maganaflow with s single in dual out in the back.

Now......I wouldnt put that radio in the exhaust if I were you. lol

Lampoon,
Did you like the sound of the magnaflow?
Mine is a 07 with the 3.6 VVT. I am looking for low tone.
not that "ricer" noise.

yes.....I put a magnaflow flow through in place of the resonator then the single in dual out 2.5" in back. I thought it sounded awesome.
I was never really happy with the pipe work or welding and the tips I got wernt very good. So when I had a chance for a GT-R system I jumped on it. Its a touch louder as it doesnt have the flow through
muffler but the tips are extremely nice.
I recommend the 4" flow through to replace the resontator then the single in dual out in back.
Also get the best tips you can. 4" fits the valance perfect and looks awesome.

So if you cant afford the GT-R or just wanna do it yourself go that route. 2.5" all the way.

Thats my recommendation.

What was the cost difference...?

I see that the GT-R is about $700...what was the cost on the Magnaflow w\ flow through?

Knock $100 off that if you go register on the other G6 forum and contact Sam (the owner) over there.

but yeah I think when all was done I paid about $85 per muffler, and $45 on the tips and
$100 labor and pipes. So I think I saved about $150 or so.

Keep in mind I now have the GT-R and its construction and product was so superior to my custom job that it wasnt funny.

What other site is he on?

That other EVIL G6 site (http://www.g6performance.com/phpBB3/) lol

Look under vendors and contact him. He gives discounts to members.
Its worth the 2 min inconvienance of signing up.





Dont tell Geewiz though.....hes mad at me.

Couldn't find him...could find the vendors section...sorry.

Sorry bought that.....
This is him (http://www.g6performance.com/phpBB3/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=22)

His thread (http://www.g6performance.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1724)

I quite don't have the cash on hand to buy the GT-R exhaust. Instead I would rather just have a magnaflow or flowmaster muffler installed with single in and dual out. Could possibly add a glasspack if necessary.

I want the tone to be warm and at idle it should be barely noticeable, but once on the road and towards WOT it should keep that warm tone with louder intensity. I've never been a fan of the cracking and popping, or even the really aggressive sound. I just want it to be a little louder and aggressive. The stock exhaust is definitely quiet as a mouse...

I went to my local shop for a quote on how much this would cost and they stated that it would be better to get an aftermarket exhaust system (like the GT-R) due the the lack of space under the car. They said they didn't have the pipes for it, and creating the custom pipes would cost more than I bargained for. Then I went to another shop, where they gave me a $240 quote but didn't look under the car, assuming that it was an easy job.

Time to revive this thread.

So I got a quote from Josh at Classic Performance and he said that it would be 679.99 + 112.46 for shipping. I am interested in more of the aspect of adding exhaust more so for performance rather than sound. Does anyone know how much this system would add to performance?
I also went to http://http://www.louscustomexhaust.com/ and they told me that it might be in the ballpark of 1,000 for true exhaust system. I am not sure which route to go with this. Any recommendations?

Time to revive this thread.

So I got a quote from Josh at Classic Performance and he said that it would be 679.99 + 112.46 for shipping. I am interested in more of the aspect of adding exhaust more so for performance rather than sound. Does anyone know how much this system would add to performance?
I also went to http://http://www.louscustomexhaust.com/ and they told me that it might be in the ballpark of 1,000 for true exhaust system. I am not sure which route to go with this. Any recommendations?

Go with the GT-R. I have it, love it, and have never heard a bad review of it.
There are no HP/TQ numbers for it, however I can tell you for sure that there is a noticeable increase in low end and mid range torque.

What engine/year do you have, and what is a "true exhaust system"?
If they are talking about true dual exhaust, then that would involve a set of headers as well, in which case something sounds fishy because there is no way you'd be able to get a high quality set of headers and exhaust for 1k.

go with the gt-r. I have it, love it, and have never heard a bad review of it.

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[QUOTE=BORN2SKI;72219]What engine/year do you have?QUOTE]

I have a 2009 G6 GXP 3.6L.
I talked to the guy out of work and he misunderstood the fact that I want dual, he initially thought I had single output. So he said it would cost a lot more for it than 1000. You think I should go with GT-R then?

GT-R is a great choice,great sound ,adds power and easy to install.Love mine and I'm an OLD GUY.

Yesterday I was going about 20 mph & my rpm was about 1600 and oh the sound
it made......It was throaty and as I passed people in traffic they looked over.
The deep yet not loud sound that it makes is sex!

The GT-R rocks!!

amen bro!

is sex!

GT-R ROCKS!!

wow i must be missing out!

whats a good place to buy the GT-R exhaust?
and where can i get it installed?

the only place is classic performance. they have a buy going on right now at G6P.

Install it yourself...unless you have an 08 or later, then I think some welding is involved. In that case any exhaust shop will do it.