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: Is There A Strut Bar For G6


puppyfang
01-07-2008, 12:23 PM
Does Anyone Know If There Is A Front And Possibly A Rear Strut Bar For A G6, Have Used Them In The Past On A Pt Cruiser And A Mustang, They Seened To Help Stiffen The Body...???? If So Where Can I Get These...thanks!

08G6
01-08-2008, 08:25 PM
I am not sure about the rear, but I have heard members buying the front engine compartment strut tower brace from a Malibu/Malibu Maxx SS (I think it lists for $140 @ the dealership).

coupe_gtp
01-08-2008, 09:26 PM
Search!!

08G6
01-09-2008, 07:04 AM
Front Strut Tower Brace - GM Part Number: 15286584 - Lists for $144. (Chevrolet Malibu/Maxx SS models)

It utilizes (2) of the studs/nuts for each strut as a mounting attachment points.

coupe_gtp
01-09-2008, 03:15 PM
**cough cough**Gm Parts Direct much cheaper**Cough Cough**

http://web.mac.com/zerosnipe/iWeb/G6/Crab%202_files/DSC02205.jpg

08G6
01-09-2008, 06:35 PM
**cough cough**Gm Parts Direct much cheaper**Cough Cough**

http://web.mac.com/zerosnipe/iWeb/G6/Crab%202_files/DSC02205.jpg

So why did you not offer any help before? you just mentioned search.

Kman
01-09-2008, 07:02 PM
Does Anyone Know If There Is A Front And Possibly A Rear Strut Bar For A G6, Have Used Them In The Past On A Pt Cruiser And A Mustang, They Seened To Help Stiffen The Body...???? If So Where Can I Get These...thanks!There is no rear strut bar for the G6. The G6 does not have struts in the rear, it has shocks.

coupe_gtp
01-09-2008, 09:06 PM
So why did you not offer any help before? you just mentioned search.

because even though this site is pittfully small I am sure this has been mentioned many times before. You should learn how to use the search button it is a very powerfull and usefull feature.

puppyfang
01-10-2008, 05:06 PM
ok, ok will learn to use the search...but thanks for the info also...

coupe_gtp
01-10-2008, 07:19 PM
yeah anytime you order off of gmpartsdirect it might take a couple weeks to get it but it is only about $93 shipped. It will give you a pretty big improvement.

puppyfang
01-11-2008, 11:49 AM
thanks...found it for $85.00 plus shipping...will order today, again thanks

emille3
05-10-2008, 11:06 AM
Has anyone installed the Strut Tower Brace from GMPARTSDIRECT? If so, can you tell me how it fits and if you notice any difference. Thanks.

black07g6gtp
05-11-2008, 10:46 PM
Has anyone installed the Strut Tower Brace from GMPARTSDIRECT? If so, can you tell me how it fits and if you notice any difference. Thanks.

I have. It is a small difference. Good luck finding one though. They are on national backorder. Try a salvage yard. It would go well with lowering, Koni front stuts(for the Saab 93) and a larger rear sway bar (in the works).

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This is mine. Sorry for the dirty car, its pollen season. You will need at least two of those rubber bumpers I picture. If not, the bar will rub the hood. You can see the scratch from where I did not have them at first. I filled all the holes because I'm OCD Like that. But one on both sides will do the trick. You should be able to find them at ACE or comparable.

Gunia
06-26-2008, 08:59 AM
I found this strut tower brace for $79.99:
http://www.zzperformance.com/products_img/864_2.jpg
http://www.zzperformance.com/g6/products1.php?id=864&catid=147

black07g6gtp
06-27-2008, 08:59 AM
that does not fit very good. Toyz on the other forum is developing a better one.

coupe_gtp
06-28-2008, 10:01 PM
toyz isn't the one developing it, Taz is the one that is developing one lol.

Fusion
07-01-2008, 09:37 AM
TAZ was my favorite cartoon character growing up!

black07g6gtp
07-02-2008, 12:35 AM
woops i feel dumb.

Artic_07
01-28-2009, 02:02 PM
I found one made by ZZ Performance. Comes in either red or black, the red one sells for less on Ebay.

Lampoon
01-28-2009, 05:50 PM
It will hit the bottom of your hood. Plus the people there are
asssssholes and you get no service.

Get the GM one.

I just painted mine to match the car.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk64/crabintakes/DSC_0117.jpg

markpetersonii
02-24-2009, 09:26 PM
It will hit the bottom of your hood. Plus the people there are
asssssholes and you get no service.

Get the GM one.

I just painted mine to match the car.


I like that is that a good one? How much did it run total? (Brace and Paint Job?)

Gambit
03-02-2009, 10:05 AM
I put a red zzperformance one on my 05 G6 GT yesterday it bolted up fine and works great. it does hit the bottom of the hood, but it's minor. It pushed the back of the hood up like 1/8 of an inch, hardly noticeable. On the plus side it really stiffens up the suspension a lot, it makes it handle better, cuts down on the noise from the sunroof etc...

I paid $65 shipped for the part.

It took only about 5 minutes to bolt it on in the driveway with a 1/4 inch ratchet. So far it works great.

I'll post some pics when I get a chance

Lampoon
03-02-2009, 10:22 AM
Please....nobody buy that crappy ZZP bar. Im telling you it will crack your hood each time you close it. Your paint will eventually crack off where it hits and your top corners will eventually craze the paint on top with cracks from the impacts. With the GM bar you have a 50-50 shot at it not hitting and there is enough play in the bolt hole that you can bend it ever so slightly where it wont hit your hood.

Its about the same price & also looks better. imho

geewhiz
03-02-2009, 10:36 AM
I put a red zzperformance one on my 05 G6 GT yesterday it bolted up fine and works great. it does hit the bottom of the hood, but it's minor. It pushed the back of the hood up like 1/8 of an inch, hardly noticeable. On the plus side it really stiffens up the suspension a lot, it makes it handle better, cuts down on the noise from the sunroof etc...

I paid $65 shipped for the part.

It took only about 5 minutes to bolt it on in the driveway with a 1/4 inch ratchet. So far it works great.

I'll post some pics when I get a chance

Please....nobody buy that crappy ZZP bar. Im telling you it will crack your hood each time you close it. Your paint will eventually crack off where it hits and your top corners will eventually craze the paint on top with cracks from the impacts. With the GM bar you have a 50-50 shot at it not hitting and there is enough play in the bolt hole that you can bend it ever so slightly where it wont hit your hood.

Its about the same price & also looks better. imho


You would think that item would fit:rolleyes:
WFT? to me thats like having a rim where the bolt pattern almost fits. Thats fkd up! Look at my sig, Just say no!

Lampoon
03-02-2009, 11:01 AM
it does tighten it up.....THATS WHAT SHE SAID!!!

nobody listens to me anyway....lol

geewhiz
03-02-2009, 11:15 AM
I was talkn bout the hitting of the hood.




I'll listen to you Lampoon, wait I'll be right back............

markpetersonii
03-02-2009, 10:31 PM
I was talkn bout the hitting of the hood.




I'll listen to you Lampoon, wait I'll be right back............

Do all of them hit the hood?

Lampoon
03-03-2009, 03:28 AM
...With the GM bar you have a 50-50 shot at it not hitting and there is enough play in the bolt hole that you can bend it ever so slightly where it wont hit your hood...

Gambit
03-03-2009, 07:35 PM
I've been real careful to not slam the hood down, I just let it down slow until the secondary latch clicks, then push it shut the rest of the way gently until the primary latch clicks. I'm going to get some rubber bumpers so it won't rub on the corners. My question is, could I modify the underside of the hood, (aka bash it with a hammer:D) to make it not hit?

It seems to me that it only hits in two places, could I pop those places in and touch up any damaged paint? Would that cause major structural damage to the hood or not?

Lampoon
03-03-2009, 08:02 PM
I just slightly bent my GM brace and it clears now. I dont think I would beat
on the hood or attempt to alter it. I would alter the part to fit the car not the car to fit the part....but hey!- Thats just me.

Sell that thing on eBay and get the GM one cause you can make it fit & clear.

Artic_07
03-04-2009, 08:51 AM
I just slightly bent my GM brace and it clears now. I dont think I would beat
on the hood or attempt to alter it. I would alter the part to fit the car not the car to fit the part....but hey!- Thats just me.

Sell that thing on eBay and get the GM one cause you can make it fit & clear.

BAAAAAAD Idea, you can alter more than you think if it is hit too much.
May not notic at first but over time you will.

Lampoon
03-05-2009, 09:43 PM
What bad idea did I give?

Gambit
03-06-2009, 03:48 PM
I washed the car today and took some pictures. The first two show the new strut tower bar and the others show the rest of the car.


One Question I have, Is the black cutout over the third brake light stock or did the previous owner add it?

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/Gambit3le/Car%20Stuff/DSCF0001-2.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/Gambit3le/Car%20Stuff/DSCF0002-2.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/Gambit3le/Car%20Stuff/DSCF0003-2.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k144/Gambit3le/Car%20Stuff/DSCF0004-2.jpg

Lampoon
03-06-2009, 05:18 PM
That was added.

Now you need a red intake and tint!

Gambit
03-07-2009, 02:20 PM
That was added.

Now you need a red intake and tint!

I thought it might have been added, it sure looks cool though.

yeah I was thinking about a red intake tube but I'm not sure about red tint on the windows, Maryland is a real bitch about that kind of stuff.

I was thinking about adding some small red accents in the interior. I definitely don't want to go overboard and start painting the whole dash, just little things.

Red and Black were my college's colors... So I'm a bit partial, plus, they look really cool together.

Another interesting thing I noticed while under the hood is that the PCV valve has a piece of metal essentially locking it in place, it looks to be riveted on? Why would they do that?

markpetersonii
03-07-2009, 02:23 PM
I thought it might have been added, it sure looks cool though.

yeah I was thinking about a red intake tube but I'm not sure about red tint on the windows, Maryland is a real bitch about that kind of stuff.

I was thinking about adding some small red accents in the interior. I definitely don't want to go overboard and start painting the whole dash, just little things.

Red and Black were my college's colors... So I'm a bit partial, plus, they look really cool together.

I am pretty sure Lampoon wasn't talking about RED tint... Just tint in general.

Gambit
03-07-2009, 03:41 PM
I am pretty sure Lampoon wasn't talking about RED tint... Just tint in general.

Don't go making sense around here.

markpetersonii
03-08-2009, 01:36 PM
Don't go making sense around here.

Oh ok...:(

Lampoon
03-08-2009, 01:43 PM
Red couplers on an intake.......not red tint! lol

markpetersonii
03-09-2009, 12:12 PM
Red couplers on an intake.......not red tint! lol

I told you so!:p

taz
07-22-2009, 07:36 PM
Racingline Performance now has a Strut bar for the G6 and is getting some good reviews over on the other G6 site

http://www.racinglineperformance.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=17&idproduct=25

Droptop Diamond
07-22-2009, 08:21 PM
I do think red tint would be a cool touch, though :cheers:

As posted in another thread about these dang things, I just put on my Malibu bar last night. Pics will be provided over there soon :glasses3:

http://www.g6ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?p=32833#post32833

CalsGTP
07-30-2009, 03:05 PM
Installed GM's Strut Tower Brace for the Malibu today on my GTP, very simple no mods needed, bolted right up. Just under $120 from GMpartsdirect.com. Test drive is coming up next!

PICS in the Gallery!!!

lcplmouw
07-30-2009, 03:48 PM
i bought mine at racingline performance and it looks sweet all polished aluminum bar and steel mounts which i painted red. will post pics on Sunday gone for the weekend.

Droptop Diamond
07-30-2009, 07:06 PM
Cal, did you have any trouble lining up the hole on the driver's side? As posted in the other thread, I had to widen it a slight bit in order for the bolt to fit through :bash:

CalsGTP
07-30-2009, 07:21 PM
No modification what so ever, take the 4 nuts off, put the bar on, put 4 nuts back on.

Droptop Diamond
07-30-2009, 08:00 PM
Oh well, figures my car came with an Odd Lot off-centered nut (behave!) :blush:

CalsGTP
07-31-2009, 10:45 AM
The holes on my STB were slotted for adjustment, so I don't know if yours came that way or not? Other wise yeah you had an odd off centered stud.

alexbalcome
03-11-2010, 10:03 AM
I also had to drill out the hole on the drivers side in order to get it to fit - racingline STB

Carmine
06-14-2010, 10:54 PM
about to order the racingline performance front strut tower bar ... does anyone have problems with this strut bar?

waterfowler76
06-15-2010, 07:04 AM
i havnt had any problems.

dwhiteg6gt
06-15-2010, 12:01 PM
This is my next MOD. :D It's pretty cheap too. What other "cheap" MOD's can I benefit from? Please let me know fellas! Even MOD's to take off your car that will help...

Dillon :cool:

Carmine
06-16-2010, 11:34 PM
@waterfowler76-thanks i went ahead and ordered it ... ill let you know how it goes ...

@dwhiteg6gt-do you have the mmi's?

Carmine
07-28-2010, 01:59 PM
Update ... just installed the racingline front strut tower bar ... not only does it looks good but it makes the car feel alot more solid

waterfowler76
07-28-2010, 05:36 PM
hey Carmine ive got the MMI's (street version) and I love them....was able to tell difference immedietly

Carmine
08-01-2010, 02:14 AM
@waterfowler76-thanks for the response ... how hard was the rear mount to put in & what differences did you feel?

waterfowler76
08-01-2010, 09:08 AM
from what i had read some people had problems with the bolts lining up when reinstalling, and the initial loosening the bolts. But I realy didnt have any problems. I dont remember exactly what i used but i do know it helps to have a good selection of socket extentions. as far as the difference, the car feels more solid...improved throttle response time...and it changed the sound of the engine a little.

Carmine
08-07-2010, 02:05 AM
@waterfowler76-thanks for all your help and great responses .. ill get back to you after the install

Droptop Diamond
08-07-2010, 08:03 AM
Ha wish I could install a rear STB :doh:

Carmine
08-07-2010, 04:48 PM
@droptopdiamond-was it that hard to do on this car?

Droptop Diamond
08-07-2010, 07:49 PM
Well if I never want to put the top down again....;)

Carmine
08-08-2010, 10:27 PM
@droptopdiamond-what does a rear mmi have to do with putting the top down?

Droptop Diamond
08-09-2010, 05:16 AM
:sigh: for easy reference, look at my avatar. Where does the top fold into when it's down? Where would you have to put the rear STB? See a potential issue?

StLouisDave
08-09-2010, 08:04 PM
droptop - I'm confused, how would a 'rear' STB go on any of our cars? Are you referring to a sway bar that attaches to the frame under the car or one similar to the front stb?

waterfowler76
08-09-2010, 08:34 PM
dave...check out this thread http://www.g6ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6278&highlight=strut

StLouisDave
08-09-2010, 08:49 PM
Waterfowler thank you - very informative and I retract my last statement.

Here is my question - My experience with sway bars has been you need to weld/bolt it onto the bottom side of the frame, now that I know there is the rear STB - which would perform better? My gut reaction would be the sway bar, but then again I have to admit my ignorance on the rear STB LOL

thanks for any/all help
David

Carmine
08-09-2010, 09:44 PM
@droptopdiamond-i was talking about the instalation of a rear mmi (motor mount insert) not the rear strut tower bar ... sorry about the confusion

MattInSoCal
08-09-2010, 09:54 PM
Here is my question - My experience with sway bars has been you need to weld/bolt it onto the bottom side of the frame, now that I know there is the rear STB - which would perform better? My gut reaction would be the sway bar, but then again I have to admit my ignorance on the rear STB LOL

A sway bar will have much more affect on the stability of the vehicle. The sway bar reduces body roll in turns, which is the tendency of the car body to move away from the radius of the turn (aka centrifugal force). By keeping the body flatter, you can potentially negotiate turns and curves faster. However, all that force has to go somewhere, and it is usually transferred to the tires. Lower profile, stickier tires with a sway bar will get you through turns faster and with greater stability.

The sway bars will allow a certain amount of body roll as they flex. The larger the diameter the sway bars, the less give they have and thus the less the body will roll. Before you go welding an iron beam across your body, note that the less flex you have in your suspension, the less comfortable the ride will be on roads that are not perfectly smooth (i.e. pretty much any road in the US, what's up with that?). Family sedans tend to be biased a more to the comfort side; Pontiacs being a performance marque tend to be a little harsher and thus better in turns, and the GT and GXP/GTP trims will be even more stable at the expense of a rougher ride (but a heck of a lot smoother than a Jeep I can tell you from experience).

From the tires the force of the turns is transferred into the struts, and then to the body, with that force most pronounced in the front of the vehicle. The upper attachment point for the struts, known as the strut towers, will flex ever so slightly while accommodating this force. The concept of the strut bar is to reduce that motion, thus reducing some flex in the body. Again, this force has to go somewhere, and the tires take on more. As much as others want to claim otherwise, on our cars the addition of the STB makes much more of a psychological than physical impact on the handling. But that didn't stop me from installing one. [;)] A rear STB may have a measurable effect using an accelerometer, but the difference may not be so noticeable to the driver of a G6 beyond the psychological effect.

~ MattInSoCal

Droptop Diamond
08-09-2010, 11:13 PM
Carmine - I see I misunderstood the turn you & waterfowler took so apologies on my part. I had a rear STB on my Grand Prix so I figured they were a "standard issue" mod on the G6's as well but I guess not :axechase:

goufcustom
01-03-2011, 04:32 PM
I have a '07 G6 Sedan I4 Value Leader, and have been wondering if it would be worth while to add the strut to the front end. Seems like everyone here is happy with the upgrade, put also seems like everyone here had the V6 and Low Profile Tires with Rims... None of which I have, but I do like to drive my G6 fast and fast through the corners. I have no vibrations in the front, changing out the rotors and pads fixed the vibration I had when breaking.

I also have a odd clunk when I turn, wondering if I need new shocks.

Opinions?

markpetersonii
01-05-2011, 02:45 PM
Go ahead and get one, if you like taking turns fast, you'll notice the difference immediately!

The clunk might be the steering though. Search; Steering Clunk.

alexbalcome
01-06-2011, 08:52 AM
Thought I would chime in on this before you go jack the car up and check the steering tightness which is likely not the case. You should first and foremost check the strut top bearings. Pop the hood and get someone to listen to the top of the strut while you turn the wheels back and forth. If they are bad you will hear a quick ping or a small clunk. Let us know how you make out.

Alex

Edit: I should also mention that I have a full set of stock struts and springs for a 2006 G6 GTP Coupe, and I believe they all use the same. I installed Megan Racing coilovers and would be willing to sell them if you need a new assembly / struts. 60,000 kms on them.

deathmage
09-19-2011, 09:12 PM
for my novice brain, what exactly does a Strut bar serve on a G6?

BORN2SKI
09-19-2011, 09:25 PM
for my novice brain, what exactly does a Strut bar serve on a G6?

Strut Tower Bar (http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=strut+bar)

deathmage
11-08-2011, 06:25 PM
Thank you for the Thread.

I just added the Racing-line Strut Tower Bar and MMI's this evening, the K&N Typhoon CAI arrived yesterday, I installed them all in about 2 hours in my garage.

.....Wow, what a overall difference in the performance and handling of the car, just with those three additions.

I have Revotec Eagle Eye Projectors and I love them, there a bit weak at super long distance, but I'm probably going to go the 6000k low/fogs route at some point. But I love the wide-panning effect of them so much. It's saved me a few times with seeing deer on the side of the road.

Quick question: would the Racing-line Grounding Wires help my G6 get better performance even if I don't have a custom sound system?