Hey folks, a lot of you G6ers have CAI on the G6s, can any of you tell me what differences you've experienced?
Let me know what engine you have and what CAI you installed.
Thanks!!!!!!!

She aint gonna let you do that..... lol

Hey folks, a lot of you G6ers have CAI on the G6s, can any of you tell me what differences you've experienced?
Let me know what engine you have and what CAI you installed.
Thanks!!!!!!!

I have the 3500 V6, I installed the CAI from Injen. I like it a lot! It is pretty loud though. When you slam on the accelerator it gets pretty loud!

I get about 3-4 more mpg and about a 9 hp boost.

Loud? From air?

She aint gonna let you do that..... lol
I know but only if:rolleyes:

Hey everyone this is my first forum ever pretty sweet, i have a 07 G6 i want to install a cold air intake but not sure what to do. hit me back

Well you could go to a CAI web site. I know one that a lot of G6ers like, http://crabintakes.com/
If you have any questions that web site will answer them too.

NOOOooooooo crab's itch!!! lol

Where in Texas are you? We are having a G6 meet and greet this Saturday.
Lookie here for info (http://www.g6performance.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=22909)

Thanx ill check it out. Im down in angleton south of houston,

I have a 2008 G6 GT, V6 with a 3.5L Engine. I was told to install a K&N filter instead of a more expensive CAI. I get the same results as the one above. 3-4 extra MPG and about 8-9 extra horse's. Cost me only 60 bucks, it does not make the car sound louder however, but I still like it anyway.

Hey there g6 pplz! Now I havent seen an install pic of a CAI! But I would like to see a few pics if you dont mind! Im really curious to see where the filter sits at! Reason being is cause of "heat soak" which is if you dont know or mind me say hot air going into the filter! that is very common on "SRI" Short Ram Intake! and with heat soak your actually losing power with heat going into the engine!!!! But if you can pleaze take pics so we can see whats hwat and i could tell you if it is or not making you any bit of a difference!


ps!!!! if you havent already, it would be best to get a ecu flash/tune to get the full potential out of any performance parts/mods you make!

I have a 2008 G6 GT, V6 with a 3.5L Engine. I was told to install a K&N filter instead of a more expensive CAI. I get the same results as the one above. 3-4 extra MPG and about 8-9 extra horse's. Cost me only 60 bucks, it does not make the car sound louder however, but I still like it anyway.


YOU GO BOB!!

Hey there g6 pplz! Now I havent seen an install pic of a CAI! But I would like to see a few pics if you dont mind!


Sure...here are a few: Clicky here (http://www.crabintakes.com/snaps.html)

I feel as though this is a stupid question, but I need clarification as I could really find a good answer anywhere else on the forum. Do you need a different hood with a air scope when you put in a CAI like the CRAB or K&N for it to be affective. Wouldn't that be similar to RAM air? Without a hood scope wouldn't you just be using 'warm' air from around the engine?

I feel as though this is a stupid question, but I need clarification as I could really find a good answer anywhere else on the forum. Do you need a different hood with a air scope when you put in a CAI like the CRAB or K&N for it to be affective. Wouldn't that be similar to RAM air? Without a hood scope wouldn't you just be using 'warm' air from around the engine?

The Crab Intakes Cold Air Box is in essence a heat shield that uses your quarter and hood to make a box.
It enables you to put on a quality filter and block the radiant heat from your engine. It is fed cold air from underneath-
With all the intakes out there you would still need to remove your old one which means also removing the resonator in the quarter panel. That will unblock your 4" round hole in your quarter and allow the airflow to enter the front and fill the quarter, with the air exiting up top into your box. You can even funnel it from the bottom of your car up to your box like a snorkel to make a lower ram air without a hood. :cool:
Do a search on google for "G6 Tiger Crab" and read a free How To all about that!
The neat thing about the CRAB (Cold Ram Air Box) is that Eric who owns MPD altered his ram air hood to funnel the air to fit it. Soooo should you get a hood it will funnel it right to your box for true ram air.
Without a hood scoop you are using your air that goes into your quarter from up front. You will see, feel and hear an improvement in both performance and MPG's. It is obviously better to have rammed air from a snorkle or hood but it is not needed for a big improvement.
The CRAB CAB was originally designed without the ram air feature.

Clear as mud?

Same applies to the other intakes....I just happen to know allot about crabs cause I have them....AND THEY ITCH!!!! :D

Ask any questions you want...thats why we are here.

clear as mud! excellent explanation, I'm glad I asked. Now I just need to convince myself weather its worth it to install one of your sweet CRAB intakes on my car with its 140 000km and all.

Im not good at the conversion but I have 87,000 miles on mine. :eek:

Im not good at the conversion but I have 87,000 miles on mine. :eek:

You must be damn good with conversions! 140 000km equals almost exactly 87 000 miles. hmm do I sense a salesman trying to sell his CRABs hehe! The difference is that you've probably gotten close to 80 000 miles with your intake in it as well!

hmm do I sense a salesman trying to sell his CRABs hehe! The difference is that you've probably gotten close to 80 000 miles with your intake in it as well!

I searched for Crab intakes on youtube, they have some cool footage.

Actually I dont have to be a salesman. If I include labor I make enough off
one of these things to buy a hamburger. Its just a hobby. I have a more than full time job...Im just a Pontiac enthusiast who loves the G6 and enjoys tinkering and making things. ;)

My CAI (made by Injen) goes down into the wheel well so it's a little further away from the heat of the engine and it gets cooler air by being closer to the opening in the front of the car.

Your forgettting something....being further away means the air is in the pipe for a longer period of time. Your talking 18-24" longer. :eek:

Which allows it to heat up more....

I just wish they had the battery on the other side with our intake on the drivers side by the TBI.....LIKE THE IMPALAS!!!

Oh well.....if wishes could come true Im sure I could find a better one. :D

Yep, true. I guess thats why the CRAB has the heat shield huh?

Hey , is there a CAI available for the 2.4L 4cyl? I'm seriously entertaining adding one if there is!


-AD

No... The 2.4 is a strange one. It cant handle the added air and throws CEL's, runs lean and makes it shift hard. I hear that a tune will take care of those issues but I dont know anyone who did it with a tune.

The V6 models (3.5, 3.5 VVT, 3.6 & 3.9) respond like champs.

The Cobalt 2.4 works with a CAI.....so no one is quite sure whats up with that.....

All I have to say is, damn.

Your forgettting something....being further away means the air is in the pipe for a longer period of time. Your talking 18-24" longer. :eek:

Which allows it to heat up more....

I just wish they had the battery on the other side with our intake on the drivers side by the TBI.....LIKE THE IMPALAS!!!

Oh well.....if wishes could come true Im sure I could find a better one. :D

A lot of people that are really anal about weight distribution move the battery to the trunk. I don't know the exact procedure, but it would free up the space that you want to use for the intake. you could probably even just make mounts that are the exact opposite and mount your battery on the opposite side of the engine bay...but I think I'd move it to the trunk before I moved it to the passenger side. "Where the hell is the battery?" lol.

i just bought a k&n cone filter to put on the end of my current exhaust system and i must say that my gas milage went down 75 miles a tank!! i had alot more get up and go, but im guessing that all the hot engine air was affecting my MPG's.... i cant wait to get a ram air hood now!!!

you put a filter on the end of your exhaust? ROFLCOPTER!!!


Well get a heat shield and remove your quarter resonator to free up the cooler air.

remove the passenger headlight and drill a 5" hole until you can see the filter from the front of the car. no reassembly required :)

you put a filter on the end of your exhaust? ROFLCOPTER!!!


Well get a heat shield and remove your quarter resonator to free up the cooler air.

call me stupid.. but, what is a quarter resonator? :confused:

Clicky here for a picture and some info on it. (http://www.g6ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=405) Once you pull the stock box it is just in the way at that point.

i was curious does installing a cai mess with the computer at all?
or is it just a throw on part that helps everything mpg bhp & torque

Computer adjusts to the added easier air which in turn helps everything...as you say.

i just bought a k&n cone filter to put on the end of my current exhaust system and i must say that my gas milage went down 75 miles a tank!!

LMFAO!!!!!!! Sorry but i never get a good laugh on these forums but this tops everything!!!

:3stooges:

I NEED CRABS!;)

i just bought a k&n cone filter to put on the end of my current exhaust system and i must say that my gas milage went down 75 miles a tank!! i had alot more get up and go, but im guessing that all the hot engine air was affecting my MPG's.... i cant wait to get a ram air hood now!!!

Keep your foot out of it... I had an increase of mpg's when I stuck a cone filter on the end of my INTAKE TUBE, and then made a cold air box for it got even better. I recently relocated it into the bumper to get it completly away from the engine heat, really did not change anything (mpgs or performance) but I like how it looks better so I'm leaving it there.

With all the intakes out there you would still need to remove your old one which means also removing the resonator in the quarter panel. That will unblock your 4" round hole in your quarter and allow the airflow to enter the front and fill the quarter, with the air exiting up top into your box. You can even funnel it from the bottom of your car up to your box like a snorkel to make a lower ram air without a hood. :cool:
Do a search on google for "G6 Tiger Crab" and read a free How To all about that!

Sooo, i read your post on g6performance and would be very interested in this project. If i buy option #3 could you include the parts for the tiger grab (except paint/primer)?

The tiger crab thread shows you what the parts are and what is needed
AND where to buy them.

Its a do it yourself. I dont have those parts....except for the one on my car!!

Alrighty Then! I will contact you when the time comes to purchase my crab intake! Until then, i will construct that tiger grab thing!!!!

I even posted a PDF of a scale outline of the mouth. Easy cheesy!!

Crabs are not something to be taken lightly!! Use caution!!!! THEY ITCH!!

lol

I even posted a PDF of a scale outline of the mouth. Easy cheesy!!

Crabs are not something to be taken lightly!! Use caution!!!! THEY ITCH!!

lol



And if you have short arms and cant reach. Your screwed!

I thought of doing this mod before even reading this. I somewhat did it in a previous vehicle. I had the cone down inside the fender and had a scoop going to it as well as cutting a bunch where the fog lights were supposed to go.

G6 tiger grab 99.9% complete. Need to fabricate the "scoop" and paint my tiger lol. My intake parts should be here friday. All polished mandrel bent aluminum tubes!

For the "do it your selfers" the G6 tiger grab construction is bumpy territory. The first hard part is removing your headlight for the first time, second, removing the overly sized worthless air resonator which took forever (would have been great to have directions on easy removal, so i kept thinking how the hell i was going to get it out lol), cutting a hole with a jigsaw on very flimsy plastic (talk about a pain in the butt. Its looks easier than doing it yourself). But, as always, hard work will pay off!!!!!

Pooners, if i cant successfully fabricate a CAB for my intake, you will be my knight in shinning armor!

Gotta go get the materials for my TIGER MOUTH! Grrrr!

Tootles!

I thought of doing this mod before even reading this. I somewhat did it in a previous vehicle. I had the cone down inside the fender and had a scoop going to it as well as cutting a bunch where the fog lights were supposed to go.

So you thought of it eh? ha haaa....Ok. Lets all give credit to the Fuzzman.

This mod has been done a good dozen times....to include a forward pipe to the grills and one that did go to the fog hole.

I still think mine works and looks the best. I love it when people are next to me and look down at the tiger's mouth.

I still think mine works and looks the best. I love it when people are next to me and look down at the tiger's mouth.

It is the best! I havent finished the scoop yet and i still have the factory air box. So when i had to put it all back together and drove to work, my mpg's noticably increased maybe 7-10 miles to the gal! Just wait til i get it all said and done i'll be averagn 30+!

when you buy an intake such as the typhoon system does it come with a new mass air flow sensor or so you use your exhisting one.
is the typhoon system a 4" dia. system ?
how about the crab systems are they 4" ?
is there that bigof a difference betweenm a 4" system ans a 3" diamater system ?

..does it come with a new mass air flow sensor or so you use your exhisting one...

Existing

...is the typhoon system a 4" dia. system ?
how about the crab systems are they 4" ?..

no....2.7" last time I measured. Someone with a relatively new one measure and chime in.

...how about the crab systems are they 4" ?...

No. It is 3"


...is there that bigof a difference betweenm a 4" system ans a 3" diamater system ?

There are no 4" systems. Your Throttle body is only 3" so over 3" would be a funnel that would produce added back pressure.

Clear as mud? :D

thanks i was going to go measure the stock one but i am kinda lazy and figured it would be faster just to post something.
cool well i found this on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PONTIAC-G6-MALIBU-MAXX-SS-LT-LS-AIR-INTAKE-3-9-04-08-c_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dSIQ26ituQ3dUC IQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d12Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d54Q Q_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ38634QQitemZ150369 710641

and figured i would buy a crab cab and be set watcha think ?
kinda tight on money.

The N take is inexpensive for a reason.

What do I think?? http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk64/crabintakes/emoticon/bitchslap.gif


It uses a bracket that anchors to the same place the cab does so you would have to
either cut that braket or the CAB. Your existing pipe from TBI to MAF is better than
that so what you are paying for is a filter.

I would recommend you get a cab without a filter (option 2) then buy your own filter
and use your existing front pipe.

Josh (TXGT) uses that intake and he still has CEL's from it leaking so much air.

I didnt want to misquote him so I asked again and this was his reply:

I havent been able to get my CEL cleared since i took off my n-take. But now I'm running my stock intake again and the car seems MUCH more responsive. And u can just quote that. And remember on Mike's dash hawk it said I was running lean...so maybe thats from that crappy intake lol

cels ??

Check Engine Lights...

i thought about wraping my intake tube with that heat reflecting tape...

Josh (TXGT) uses that intake and he still has CEL's from it leaking so much air.

I didnt want to misquote him so I asked again and this was his reply:

Leaking air??? As in too much "unfiltered air" from the connections or just too much air being sucked in??? If its the connections, why not get some rubber connectors and clamp those down over the pipe?

Also, this "n-take" uses the same bolt hole to hold the intake tube as the CRAB CAB so why cant you just put the intake bracket on top of the CAB bracket and bolt it down? Just curious.

So basically if too much air is getting into the engine AFTER the MAF due to poor quality connections, it can screw with the fuel/air mixture and "trick" the computer so your engine will run like crap??? Am i thinking this right???

Leaking air??? As in too much "unfiltered air" from the connections or just too much air being sucked in??? If its the connections, why not get some rubber connectors and clamp those down over the pipe?

Also, this "n-take" uses the same bolt hole to hold the intake tube as the CRAB CAB so why cant you just put the intake bracket on top of the CAB bracket and bolt it down? Just curious.

So basically if too much air is getting into the engine AFTER the MAF due to poor quality connections, it can screw with the fuel/air mixture and "trick" the computer so your engine will run like crap??? Am i thinking this right???

First paragraph- I dont know....Your missing the point. Why buy crap then have to fix it.

Second paragraph-
The bracket is on the inside of the cab. So the bracket would have to go through the cab to anchor to it as the n-take one is by the MAF unless theve changed it.

Third paragraph....Its no trick....whats happening is your MAF is not reading the correct airflow so your ecm/pcm will be getting wrong info about the air so it adjusts wrong on the fuel mixture issues etc....
It needs to read what is happening so it can adjust for it. Hence you performance increase. If it reads wrong then its bad info in which results in bad info out.

I think there are members who are happy with that intake.....just havent found any yet...

Anyone?????? Come defend it. :p

James I just read where you said u bought the n-take. :eek:
Im just curoius....why bother asking us? :frown:

First paragraph- I dont know....Your missing the point. Why buy crap then have to fix it.

Second paragraph-
The bracket is on the inside of the cab. So the bracket would have to go through the cab to anchor to it as the n-take one is by the MAF unless theve changed it.

Third paragraph....Its no trick....whats happening is your MAF is not reading the correct airflow so your ecm/pcm will be getting wrong info about the air so it adjusts wrong on the fuel mixture issues etc....
It needs to read what is happening so it can adjust for it. Hence you performance increase. If it reads wrong then its bad info in which results in bad info out.

I think there are members who are happy with that intake.....just havent found any yet...

Anyone?????? Come defend it. :p

James I just read where you said u bought the n-take. :eek:
Im just curoius....why bother asking us? :frown:

It seems to be working just fine for now. I didnt know it was so cheap until after i got it out of the box. Thats why i posted so many q's about it. (not worth sending back either...well into the garbage is free)

As far as crab intakes go, after installing that POS n-take, i'll be buying it shortly. (Dont worry i havent forgot about my crabs)

AND you havent sent me additional info on how to order the CRABS? i'll shoot you an email.

It seems to be working just fine for now.

If its working then hang onto it. ;)

No need to get crabs. Besides.....they itch! :D

Cheap prices = Cheap product!

It's common sense... I'm going to get CRABs in the next couple months, I just know it!

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk64/crabintakes/google.gif


http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk64/crabintakes/crabs2.jpg

CRABS get passed around pretty easily around here. EVEN when you avoid them they just come to you.

ya know what you mean. Im prob going to be looking for a black and red one soon to accent the engine better than the K&N. Maybe pooners can find me a black and red crab somewhere?

I heard that Crab Intakes has red stickers they can put on their black cabs.....???
Also I heard they can leave the cab in primer so you can paint it how you want....

Sounds like a great company! :rolleyes:

do you have a picture of it? Black CAB and a red sticker that wont fall off? would acctually be fine I really need the red filter to then :)

Look at the pink one....I love that one!
http://www.crabintakes.com/snaps.html

ya the black cab with the red accents would be nice i gotta see first got a couple things working right now.

Too bad Crab Intakes doesnt ship to Tenneesseeee...too many toothless people there. http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk64/crabintakes/eek.gif

does it count if im in PA right now haha!

probably not...

haha

why you two hatin on Tennessee? lol

A better question is Why Not??

Me and my wife sometimes get shipped down to Memphis for training. All I know now is that I hate Memphis.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

http://www.broken-fish.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/stay-on-topic.jpg

lol

You just had to post the bucket of fried chicken didnt ya?

Lets hope thats not the bucket of chicken i dropped on the wet floor before handing it out a couple months ago. They'll fire me over that. Thanks pooners.

EEEEEeeewwwwww!!!!

Actually I dont have to be a salesman. If I include labor I make enough off
one of these things to buy a hamburger. Its just a hobby. I have a more than full time job...Im just a Pontiac enthusiast who loves the G6 and enjoys tinkering and making things. ;)

I live here in San Antonio as well, are you saying you sell the crab intakes? Or any sort of intake I can buy? Would save a lot on shipping and such :D

I have a 2008 G6 GT (:

-Kyle

Edit: Sorry for the major bump.

^ yup lampoon is definitly the...
http://www.crabs.net/images/crab%20mascot.jpg
CRAB MAN!!

I just installed an Injen CAI and it looks pretty cool and sounds nice.
not sure if I notice any power gain tho

Injen? oh nooooes.
The Injen is 2.7" and your TBI is 3" so yeah....thats a step down.
The filter should compensate some though. If you took it into your
quarter you just added 2+ more feet of tubing that it has to pull air through
so there is another step backward.
Probably why you dont feel a big difference.

OOO!

Sounds like Injen just got schooled!

Daaammn!

I noticed on one site that the Injen sales ad stated that the CAI can not be shipped to California due to emissions regulations. Is this true with crabs. Are Californians forced to be immune

Hey everyone! I'm new to the forums here and think i made a terrible mistake, 2 days ago i ordered the ebay N-take thinking it would be sufficient. Then i read what was said on here about it. haha what should i do?!?

CA is a CARB compliant state. If it wont pass inspection then you will
have to pull it off once a year and put on the stocker to get the inspection.

The Filter used is CARB compliant so I believe its ok but you would have to ask someone from California.

Wc- Try it. Who knows you may love it!!! ;)

I have to get the same smog tests every year here in Nevada...I didnt have any problem passing.

smog test in california are mostly done on older cars. Ive had CRABS for a yr or maybe longer now and i havent had any problems with it. If anything you can just replace your original intake before testing but you shouldnt have any problems.

I've noticed a little mid-range power (probably just in my head lol). Also, the engine sounds alot more throaty!

Anyone know any good websites for 2010 G6 parts?

What are you looking for...?

The Crab Intakes Cold Air Box is in essence a heat shield that uses your quarter and hood to make a box.
It enables you to put on a quality filter and block the radiant heat from your engine. It is fed cold air from underneath-
With all the intakes out there you would still need to remove your old one which means also removing the resonator in the quarter panel. That will unblock your 4" round hole in your quarter and allow the airflow to enter the front and fill the quarter, with the air exiting up top into your box. You can even funnel it from the bottom of your car up to your box like a snorkel to make a lower ram air without a hood. :cool:
Do a search on google for "G6 Tiger Crab" and read a free How To all about that!
The neat thing about the CRAB (Cold Ram Air Box) is that Eric who owns MPD altered his ram air hood to funnel the air to fit it. Soooo should you get a hood it will funnel it right to your box for true ram air.
Without a hood scoop you are using your air that goes into your quarter from up front. You will see, feel and hear an improvement in both performance and MPG's. It is obviously better to have rammed air from a snorkle or hood but it is not needed for a big improvement.
The CRAB CAB was originally designed without the ram air feature.

Clear as mud?

Same applies to the other intakes....I just happen to know allot about crabs cause I have them....AND THEY ITCH!!!! :D

Ask any questions you want...thats why we are here.