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hook2233
11-15-2005, 06:49 AM
GM has a red tag sale--trading in my 05 gt for a 06 gtp-works out to 7600 for the 06-clear the loan with a new loan at a saving of 125 per month-this may work-thx guys

Subtle_Cynicism
11-15-2005, 01:02 PM
I'm so excited about this Red Sale event.

I wanted a G6 GTP, but the Employee Pricing offer didn't count for 06 models at the time, and this is just as good, as far as I'm concerned. You can get a fully loaded G6 GTP Coupe for like 24,xxx.

Not bad.

GTPGuy82
11-15-2005, 03:36 PM
My GTP coupe cost 24,xxx, and that was in August. But the only things I didn't have were side airbags (~600) and the adjustable pedals (~125), so $725 should not even be a problem to knock off the final cost.

Mike

S8ER99
11-15-2005, 04:14 PM
Red tag sale?

I was informed by the dealership yesterday that there isn't any way to support my negative equity on ANY vehicle.. how are people dumping their 05s already?

Explr1
11-15-2005, 07:27 PM
I want to know too!!! How the hell can I off load my 6 month old '05 which I still owe 20k on and drive off in an '06 GTP for $21,XXX? I really don't want a GTP with the 18/26 gas milage, but it does have a few extra ponies.


Pontiac G6 Sedan (Select a different vehicle)

Selected Style: GTP
MSRP: $24,835.00
Red Tag Price after cash incentives†: $21,971.13
(After applicable incentives. See details.)

hook2233
11-15-2005, 09:42 PM
i have a high interest rate and 24000 owed on my 05 -the 06 is 24000 or so-trade the 05 for 17500 - pay tax on the new price minus the trade = tax-put down 2000 -GMAC finances the new one (higher than my loan now but less interst-125 lower per month payment -it works out less than now--yes you lose a little but less interest percent is worth it to me

Explr1
11-16-2005, 06:19 AM
So what would your payment be and for how long? Is it a loan, or SmartBuy? Remember, your probably going to be paying more for gas and insurance with the GTP. I would kind of like a GTP, but not willing to go over $350 a month with a car/insurance payment.

hook2233
11-16-2005, 09:02 AM
So what would your payment be and for how long? Is it a loan, or SmartBuy? Remember, your probably going to be paying more for gas and insurance with the GTP. I would kind of like a GTP, but not willing to go over $350 a month with a car/insurance payment.

payment would be about 375 for 72 - but at 5 % instead of 11 - pus a 06 -it works out for me-insurance is 75 more per year

Robyn P
11-16-2005, 09:25 AM
Well I've been dealing with my Pontiac Dealership all morning. Contacted the dealership that I got the G6 from. I am looking at an 05 Grand Prix GT. Red Tag price is 22 something. I estimated a payment of 499 if I paid 32+ for this car, which is not what I would pay, just picked a high number to go on. Let me tell you the dealership must be on something, the "allowed" me 21+ for my G6 and came up with a 600 per month payment for 72 months!!!!!! :eek: i was looking at my payment being the same, from the way I calculated it on the GMAC calculator. I have e-mailed the dealership and asked how he came up with 600 per month, I'll let you know!!! :bolt:

hook2233
11-16-2005, 09:53 AM
Red tag sale?

I was informed by the dealership yesterday that there isn't any way to support my negative equity on ANY vehicle.. how are people dumping their 05s already?
you can't get rid of the negative equity-but to trade my car now I get top dolar instead of a few years-plus the red tag--try another dealer if you want to trade

hook2233
11-16-2005, 09:54 AM
Well I've been dealing with my Pontiac Dealership all morning. Contacted the dealership that I got the G6 from. I am looking at an 05 Grand Prix GT. Red Tag price is 22 something. I estimated a payment of 499 if I paid 32+ for this car, which is not what I would pay, just picked a high number to go on. Let me tell you the dealership must be on something, the "allowed" me 21+ for my G6 and came up with a 600 per month payment for 72 months!!!!!! :eek: i was looking at my payment being the same, from the way I calculated it on the GMAC calculator. I have e-mailed the dealership and asked how he came up with 600 per month, I'll let you know!!! :bolt:
be careful--they add Gap insurance--alarms etc--just make sure you get the ful red tag-about 3400 or so-plus your trade--plus any money down--and you pay tax on the difference of the new price and the trade in price--good luck!

miscreant
11-16-2005, 10:16 AM
and you pay tax on the difference of the new price and the trade in price--good luck!That would be state-based. Some states do taxes different than others.

Explr1
11-16-2005, 12:42 PM
$375 for six years? Wow, thats a long time. The warranty is only going to last 3 years, plus you end up paying $27K+ for it. I'd look at the Mitsubishi Galant with the 3.8, 10 year 100K warranty.

Robyn P
11-16-2005, 01:30 PM
Well I asked where the dealership got the 600 per month payment. The repsonse was, "why don't you come in tomorrow when the finance person is here and go over everything." I told this nut case that I was not going to drive an hour to see where he got this 600 per month from because I was not going to pay that. I told him I needed to see his reasoning and if he could not explain this to me then I would have to pass. I told him I felt like I was not getting the best deal possible. This was at 10:45am (central time). I have not heard anything from him since then, so I'm assuming he's not interested in my business, oh well. :rolleyes:

S8ER99
11-16-2005, 02:34 PM
Sorry to hear that Robyn, it seems that the dealerships where I live are just interested in how much they are making off the deal rather than actually trying to sell a car. Everywhere I have gone in the area won't take a dime off their sticker price. Despite the wide gap in price by the various delears they all make the same claim "We have the lowest price and we don't have any room to go down further".

So frustrating.

hook2233
11-17-2005, 07:26 AM
$375 for six years? Wow, thats a long time. The warranty is only going to last 3 years, plus you end up paying $27K+ for it. I'd look at the Mitsubishi Galant with the 3.8, 10 year 100K warranty.
are you not paying something ike that anyway--

Explr1
11-17-2005, 09:02 AM
are you not paying something ike that anyway--

Nope, I'm paying $299 a month Smartbuy for 48 months with $5000.00 due at the end if I want to keep it, which I won't. It's a good deal, except if you want to trade it. If you do, GMAC wants the full Smartbuy amount plus the $5k, hence I owe 20K on it if I wanted to trade it today.

Check this out:

2006 Galant LS

MSRP* $ 22,999

Comes standard with: a 3.8-liter V6, Sportronic® four-speed automatic transmission with adaptive shift control and clutchless manual shift mode, air conditioning, power windows/locks/mirrors, daytime running lights, 140-watt CD/MP3-compatible audio system with six speakers and audio information display, four-wheel disc anti-lock brakes with Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD), traction control, eight-way adjustable driver's seat, speed-sensitive power steering, 16-inch alloy wheels, tire pressure monitor system, advanced dual-stage front SRS air bags,† front seat-mounted side-impact air bags† and more. Plus a 10 year 100k warranty.

Beats the GTP hands down!!! God, I hope I get rear ended by a plow truck when is starts snowing.

S8ER99
11-17-2005, 10:25 AM
375 for 4 years... is that bad? I thought about lease trader but I figured everyone was paying a lot less than me.

Explr1
11-17-2005, 10:43 AM
375 for 4 years... is that bad? I thought about lease trader but I figured everyone was paying a lot less than me.

$374 for 4 years isn't bad, $17,952. Six years, $26,928, now thats bad. Yes it might be a lower payment for hook, but for a longer period. That equals more money you have to pay out in the long run. He should take that cash he has and apply it of his current car loan and then refinance through GMAC or another bank with a lower interest rate.

hook2233
11-20-2005, 07:28 AM
I traded my gt for a 06 gtp-got a good deal with that red tag sale--lower interest rate etc. will i lose some money-you always lose a little with a vehicle-anyway-thx for all the advice -

Explr1
11-20-2005, 01:06 PM
I traded my gt for a 06 gtp-got a good deal with that red tag sale--lower interest rate etc. will i lose some money-you always lose a little with a vehicle-anyway-thx for all the advice -

Whats the good deal? What are the payments and length?

hook2233
11-20-2005, 04:46 PM
my good deal-i got a 2006 gtp--at 3.9 % verses 10 - my loan paid in full from the 05 and a loan for the 06 lesser amount due to the red tag sale - I paid the tax on the difference of trade and new and will pay about 75 less per month -39 months smart buy-the figure seemed to work--also I added gap insurance -just in case

Explr1
11-20-2005, 06:13 PM
my good deal-i got a 2006 gtp--at 3.9 % verses 10 - my loan paid in full from the 05 and a loan for the 06 lesser amount due to the red tag sale - I paid the tax on the difference of trade and new and will pay about 75 less per month -39 months smart buy-the figure seemed to work--also I added gap insurance -just in case

GMAC provides gap insurance for free to protect their interest. Thats why I like them. So, what the numbers dude!?! And be honest!!!

hook2233
11-21-2005, 05:32 AM
I am paying 5.69 per month for Gap- 39* month smart buy 3.9% - about 375 per month - i put 1500 down- the numbers worked for me-i want a new car every few years--but want the option of selling it if i want when i want--a car always depreciates you never can go even or make money--except on my 63 corvette-lol--have a nice holiday

Explr1
11-21-2005, 06:39 AM
I am paying 5.69 per month for Gap- 39* month smart buy 3.9% - about 375 per month - i put 1500 down- the numbers worked for me-i want a new car every few years--but want the option of selling it if i want when i want--a car always depreciates you never can go even or make money--except on my 63 corvette-lol--have a nice holiday

Thats not bad at all, a little over $14K. Enjoy!

S8ER99
11-21-2005, 07:51 AM
Damn.. good deal man.

Robyn P
11-21-2005, 01:25 PM
Is it just me or has GM caused themselves to go broke and stabbed us GM owners right in the back? Let's see, they weren't selling cars like they needed to, so they gave EVERYONE the option to get the EE discount, causing them to loose money, causing those that bought before the offer to struggle to trade because they paid way more than the EE discount price, the new Red Tag price, and the new 2006 pricing, and are now having to layoff EE's and close plants. The most I've been honestly offered in the past week was 17000, which is ok, but I needed more. I am still working with the Nissan dealership, I've got to get out of this GM mess I have allowed myself to get into. And as for the EE discount, I was totally not feeling it. The EE discount is for GM, Nissan, etc... employees. The people that go out and work 8-14 hours per day in a 80-100 degree factory to produce these vehicles, kinda like if you work at Wal-Mart you get the Wal-Mart discount. GM should have kept that for the EE's, but they got in such a bind and got desperate, they took away a special benefit for EE's for a few months and gave it to everyone. They did this to themselves. And for those of you that may think, oh she's just jealous b/c she didn't get the EE discount on hers, well, I did get the EE discount b/c my husband works for a Tower Automotive plant. Just my opinion. Any thoughts? ;)

Explr1
11-21-2005, 01:59 PM
Is it just me or has GM caused themselves to go broke and stabbed us GM owners right in the back? Let's see, they weren't selling cars like they needed to, so they gave EVERYONE the option to get the EE discount, causing them to loose money, causing those that bought before the offer to struggle to trade because they paid way more than the EE discount price, the new Red Tag price, and the new 2006 pricing, and are now having to layoff EE's and close plants. The most I've been honestly offered in the past week was 17000, which is ok, but I needed more. I am still working with the Nissan dealership, I've got to get out of this GM mess I have allowed myself to get into. And as for the EE discount, I was totally not feeling it. The EE discount is for GM, Nissan, etc... employees. The people that go out and work 8-14 hours per day in a 80-100 degree factory to produce these vehicles, kinda like if you work at Wal-Mart you get the Wal-Mart discount. GM should have kept that for the EE's, but they got in such a bind and got desperate, they took away a special benefit for EE's for a few months and gave it to everyone. They did this to themselves. And for those of you that may think, oh she's just jealous b/c she didn't get the EE discount on hers, well, I did get the EE discount b/c my husband works for a Tower Automotive plant. Just my opinion. Any thoughts? ;)

If you really need to get out of your G6 that bad, you could always have "a deer ran out in front of me, where did that tree come from?" accident. Seriously, go look into leasing a vehicle. They apply lease incentives that will eat up the negative equity in your current vehicle.

S8ER99
11-21-2005, 03:41 PM
Leasing doesn't offer enough coverage to take up the dept on these... we payed WAY more than the cars are selling for...

Robyn P
11-22-2005, 06:36 AM
I've looked into a lease, but they were not able to work with it either, yet. It's sad that I'm so desperate to get out of this car. :o