My 06 GTP coupe didnt come with the factory remote start. I see its available for $195 as an accessory from the dealer. Has anyone added it to their car? Simple plug and play? What kind of range do they have? thanks, Roy

that sucks it was a $150 option when I bought the car, already installed. The range is pretty far though.

Mike

Depends on when the car was built. While looking for one, I saw the remote option for $150 and $180. The $1550 sunroof package on my car is $1650 on others.

Range i pretty good as long as you aren't in a garage or anything. I;ve got it to start from probably about 500 feet away in an open parking lot, havent tried from much longer.

The factory sticker at the dealer I go to says $190 now. I've only seen them at $150 and $190.

Be sure the $195 from the dealer includes installation.

a bit off topic, but closely related....
Is the remote start an option with the 6 speed manual on the GTP? The Pontiac website says no, but a salesmen told me that it was. He was an idiot though, so I'm not sure if he was right or not.

Nope, doesnt include installation. I asked today. The kit is estimated at .8-1.0 hours to install. Parts guy says new software has to be loaded and the "scanner" tool has to be used so it's not a do-it-yourself thing. Even so, I might get it installed when they do my paint/fabric protection.
From what I understand, you cant get remote start with a manual transmission. Seems like very bad things would happen if you left it parked in gear!


**few hours later....***

Stopped in at the dealer and asked them to order the kit. The guy looked at me like I had 6 eyes or something. Totally clueless, should be interesting. Theyre going to install it next wednesday while the car is in for Simonizing. Let ya know how it goes.

...is the remote start an option with the 6 speed manual on the GTP? The Pontiac website says no, but a salesmen told me that it was. He was an idiot though, so I'm not sure if he was right or not. Website is correct and salesman just giving you BS and headaches for service technicians if he promises stuff like that.

If you want to know a little more about what they will be doing to "install" remote start here is GM Newsletter for dealers which your guy obviously needs to reread

http://www.gmtechlink.com/images/issues/jun05/TLjun05e.html#story1

Thanks, I'll print a copy out and take it along. Sounds like everything is already installed in the car. Just need the new remotes and a software upgrade.

If you want to know a little more about what they will be doing to "install" remote start here is GM Newsletter for dealers which your guy obviously needs to reread

http://www.gmtechlink.com/images/issues/jun05/TLjun05e.html#story1

You wouldn't happen to know the ID/password to get into the GMtechlink home page would you?

You don't need one to read the article I provided link to - otherwise I wouldn't have posted it :p

As far as how to get an ID/password - I don't have one but I do know how to get one - just haven't gotten around to it.

It is technically illegal to have a remote start with a MT. It can be done and I have done it but if it got left in gear then there would be some real problems.

It is technically illegal to have a remote start with a MT. It can be done and I have done it but if it got left in gear then there would be some real problems.

Thats sort of what I figured, that Pontiac doesn't do it from a liability standpoint. Funny though, I've seen lots of aftermarket shops do it. I believe the system checks if the car is in neutral before it will start the vehicle.

Thats true but the legal standpoint for it is what if that system fails. Then the car could easily launch forward if it is left in first.

I own a 6 speed and to remove the KEY the shifter has to be on REVERSE. Otherwise can't get the key out. How can you go over that situation ???? Thanks...

Well, dropped the car off this morning. They called in the afternoon and said the sealant was done but my car isnt set up for remote start. The manual says if the keyless entry has a "+" on the back, the car is pre-wired. I have the "+". The GM Techlink says the car has to have RPO AP8 installed. Where can I find if my car acutally has it?

You have a 2006 model with auto trans, correct? Manual trans wouldn't have ability for remote start even though the key fobs on those have the "+" also. I know you wouldn't have a 2005 because the 2005 (and early 2006) didn't have key fobs with "+"

The "+" actually indicates "Extended Range" but that change was implemented at the same time that vehicles were built "remote start ready". The final thing you could take a look at would be open your hood and take a close look at the hood latch on the body. Do you see a black plastic hood switch attached to back of latch? That is also required for a vehicle to have remote start and it was also added to vehicle to facilitate adding feature.

The AP8 option isn't going to show up on information that the dealer has available on your vehicle because it is base configuration for all but 4 cylinder model - some of those are built without any keyless entry system on them.

So dealer might be a bit confused and, gee, you are paying money for this anyways so seems like they would want to help.

I know you likely looked at Techlink article but what the dealer gets with this kit is 2 new key fobs (with remote start button), a special code which allows them to call their Techline call center to get authorization to enable remote start in the body computer in your vehicle (their service tool is unable to enable remote start without that download - something they call a "VCI number") and a sticker to put in your vehicle indicating that they installed the remote start kit so that later service folks know your vehicle is supposed to have feature and someone doesn't later inadvertently disable feature. This could happen if a technician later swapped out the body control module in your vehicle because a new one would also have to be configured via similar download to enable remote start.

As you can see they really don't have to do any disassembly of vehicle to enable feature. Again, they likely would need both of your original key fobs so that when they program the new ones they can also reprogram old ones so that you have 4 functional fobs for your vehicle (you ARE paying for them - so they should all work).

Feel free to share this info with dealer - believe me when I tell you I know quite a bit about how this all works ;)

You have a 2006 model with auto trans, correct? Manual trans wouldn't have ability for remote start even though the key fobs on those have the "+" also. I know you wouldn't have a 2005 because the 2005 (and early 2006) didn't have key fobs with "+"

The "+" actually indicates "Extended Range" but that change was implemented at the same time that vehicles were built "remote start ready". The final thing you could take a look at would be open your hood and take a close look at the hood latch on the body. Do you see a black plastic hood switch attached to back of latch? That is also required for a vehicle to have remote start and it was also added to vehicle to facilitate adding feature.

The AP8 option isn't going to show up on information that the dealer has available on your vehicle because it is base configuration for all but 4 cylinder model - some of those are built without any keyless entry system on them.

So dealer might be a bit confused and, gee, you are paying money for this anyways so seems like they would want to help.

I know you likely looked at Techlink article but what the dealer gets with this kit is 2 new key fobs (with remote start button), a special code which allows them to call their Techline call center to get authorization to enable remote start in the body computer in your vehicle (their service tool is unable to enable remote start without that download - something they call a "VCI number") and a sticker to put in your vehicle indicating that they installed the remote start kit so that later service folks know your vehicle is supposed to have feature and someone doesn't later inadvertently disable feature. This could happen if a technician later swapped out the body control module in your vehicle because a new one would also have to be configured via similar download to enable remote start.

As you can see they really don't have to do any disassembly of vehicle to enable feature. Again, they likely would need both of your original key fobs so that when they program the new ones they can also reprogram old ones so that you have 4 functional fobs for your vehicle (you ARE paying for them - so they should all work).

Feel free to share this info with dealer - believe me when I tell you I know quite a bit about how this all works ;)

i am purchasing a 1SV G6 next week. is it likely that it's not pre-set to accept remote start? if so, am i going to have to go aftermarket, or will i just need to find the harnesses/components to enable the installation? the parts have to be available somewhere if it's an option...

Vita,

You are buying a 4 cylinder? The question will be whether the vehicle you are ordering has keyless entry feature or not. According to Pontiac.com there is a Cruise Control and Keyless entry package option on 4 cylinder which would need to be on your vehicle. It doesn't look to be part of the 1SV package. If you are ordering a V6 then no problem since all of the 6 cylinders come with keyless entry standard.

You have a 2006 model with auto trans, correct?
Yes


The final thing you could take a look at would be open your hood and take a close look at the hood latch on the body. Do you see a black plastic hood switch attached to back of latch?
Check this picture out...
http://userweb.suscom.net/~paroyboy/switch.jpg
I believe the red arrow points to the switch you mentioned and the blue arrow pointing to the wires connected to it.
If that is the hood switch, the car "should" be remote start ready, right?

paroyboy,

You are correct the arrows point to hood switch and wiring. So your vehicle is "remote start ready". All dealer needs to do is order kit containing stuff I mentioned in last message. If I can find the part number of that kit for your vechicle I will post back -

But it is something only dealer can do because it requires reconfiguration of BCM in your vehicle.

EDIT -

Part Number 17800737 List $195 (as someone else posted)
TRANSMITTER PKG,REM START & R/CON DR LK (INSTALL .6 HR) (INCLS SPID LABEL,IDENT TAG & INSTR)
(REQ SERV PROGRAMMING SYS AND SCAN TOOL W/PASS-THRU PROGRAMMING CAPABILITY (SOFTWARE ONLY AVAIL THRU TCSC)

Thanks. I'll go back to the dealer today "armed" with this info. Maybe I'll get free labor for the hassle. Yeah, right! Thanks again

Good luck on that ;) - most of the cost is for labor - but you did do a bunch of legwork for them.

If it doesn't work dealer needs to call their Technical Assistance Center -- the consultants there will confirm what you are telling dealer.

do you happen to know details on ordering the dealer service manuals that would include the i4 (2006+)?

with it in hand, i could find out all parts necessary to enable remote start/keyless entry for G6's that are not pre-enabled from the factory. i'm sure it's a wire harness or two, on top of the other parts mentioned.

do you happen to know details on ordering the dealer service manuals that would include the i4 (2006+)?

with it in hand, i could find out all parts necessary to enable remote start/keyless entry for G6's that are not pre-enabled from the factory. i'm sure it's a wire harness or two, on top of the other parts mentioned.

You would not be able to enable remote start on your own.

There are no additional wiring harnesses required if the vehicle you order has basic keyless entry. If the vehicle you order doesn't have keyless entry then dealer wouldn't be able to upgrade it to remote start without replacing several things which would be pretty expensive.

Ordering service manual is piece of cake but it looks like it isn't available in paper format yet. They are expensive ($135) Helm Inc (http://www.helminc.com/helm/product2.asp?class%5F2=PON&mk=Pontiac&yr=2006&md=G6&dt=Shop%2FService+Information&module=&from=result&Style=helm&Sku=GMP06ZP&itemtype=N&mscsid=0K17TK370JC38H3UH80LHRBW5CH0DLH5)

Well, still no luck with the service dept. I took a copy of the posts in along with the pic showing the hood latch. He still says that GM says I need AP8 in the car and the only "A" codes I have are AK5 and A51 which I think refers to airbags and seats. I told him I think that AP8 is standard in the 06 models and he basically brushed it off. Do I try another dealer or is this one correct that I cant get it?

The guy was an idiot for not listening to you. I guess you might have to try another dealer or call the Customer Assistance Center whose number is in your owner manual.

Would you mind mentioning the dealer you are working with? I will also pass along your issue to a few interested parties who might be able to put some additional clarifying information out to dealers on this subject - it won't help you out but maybe others down the road.

Again sorry for your difficulties on this - the remote start is a nice feature, especially to have a factory warranted one which works with existing theft system in vehicle so I hope you eventually do find a dealer who can enable it for you.

I did e-mail the owners assistance contact on the Pontiac website. The dealer is Jack Giambalvo in York, PA. Maybe its not his fault if the info he has is wrong. Is there a contact he can check with to get the right info on the 06's? I'll wait a few days to hear back from my e-mail to Pontiac, then call the number in the manual.

Thanks - I will see what I can do on this as well

Heres the response I got back from Pontiac....

"Dear Mr. Smith,

Thank you for contacting the Pontiac Customer Assistance Center. I
appreciate you taking the time to write us in regards to the build of your
2006 G6.

In response to your question, I looked up all options with which the
vehicle was built by pulling your vehicle identification number build
sheet. Your vehicle does not have the "AP8" option in the vehicle build.
Therefore, your vehicle does not have the remote start feature. The
remote start feature is not a standard feature on the G6. If you would
like to set your mind at ease or for added confirmation, you can look on
page 2-4 of your owner's manual to view the remote that does include
the auto start feature. I am sorry if the information provided previous
to know was incorrect."

I guess I'll have to give them a call and explain what I meant.

Thanks for all the continued info on this - I sent out copies of your posts to several folks so will see what happens - of course many at GM on holiday this week so likely no reponse until next week.

I don't think your dealer ever called the GM Technical Assistance Center on your vehicle from what I can see. That would have been one resource they might have tried to use.

Called the 1-800 assistance number this morning and after 35 minutes, I'm still at the same position! Told the guy that the manual says "if you have a "+" on the remote, your car is remote start ready". He said he couldnt find any documentation about AP8 being standard now. I told him I thought the AP8 code was for the Extended Range Keyless Entry which I know I have because of the "+". He told me to try a different dealer! I think I will just spend the $200+ on something else!

You would not be able to enable remote start on your own.

There are no additional wiring harnesses required if the vehicle you order has basic keyless entry. If the vehicle you order doesn't have keyless entry then dealer wouldn't be able to upgrade it to remote start without replacing several things which would be pretty expensive.

Ordering service manual is piece of cake but it looks like it isn't available in paper format yet. They are expensive ($135) Helm Inc (http://www.helminc.com/helm/product2.asp?class%5F2=PON&mk=Pontiac&yr=2006&md=G6&dt=Shop%2FService+Information&module=&from=result&Style=helm&Sku=GMP06ZP&itemtype=N&mscsid=0K17TK370JC38H3UH80LHRBW5CH0DLH5)

would i be able to find out what components are involved with the keyless entry system?

i understand the dealer has to enable it, that is not the issue. the issue would be finding out what i need to hook it up. i'm still convinced that it's a harness or two that isn't hooked up to the PCM from the factory. keyless entry can be enabled without too much hassle (likely hooking up the receiver), and though it seems like the dealers don't know it, i think adding remote start would too. can't be more than a few harnesses. i don't think they'd need a sensor as they could interpret the signal from the tranny to confirm it's in park/neutral.

the fact that the dealer just has to plug in the tech II to get it enabled on a car that does have it, convinces me that i just have to hook up the receiver via a harness to the PCM, and get it reflashed by the dealer to be enabled. all in all it might be a more economical option to just go aftermarket, but i like the idea of having it installed "factory," even if more costly...

i guess i'll have to do some more work on this, and it might not be bad for me to have the shop manual either...

would i be able to find out what components are involved with the keyless entry system?...Do you know yet if vehicle you are buying has basic remote keyless entry option?

Do you know yet if vehicle you are buying has basic remote keyless entry option?

it is not. i am getting the 1SV (bare bones) G6. the dealer said they recently installed a keyless entry for another customer for around $200.

is anyone here a tech for a dealer? it would make a huge difference if we knew exactly what components are involved. the more i think about it, the more i'm convinced that even the harnesses must be present already, regardless of model, and all that is needed is the receiver(s) and a reflash of the system to enable them.

if the 1SV does not come with the harnesses in order to save costs, i'm not convinced that they are not accessible given the proper part numbers. the PCM has to be pre-wired to accept keyless/remote start, as it would be too costly to have entirely different designs just to prevent people from "moving up" from a lower option set.

the PCM has to be pre-wired to accept keyless/remote start, as it would be too costly to have entirely different designs just to prevent people from "moving up" from a lower option set.Actually the BCM is part you are thinking of and if you order a base vehicle without keyless entry you get a BCM that doesn't support function and likely would have to be replaced to get factory system installed $$

Actually the BCM is part you are thinking of and if you order a base vehicle without keyless entry you get a BCM that doesn't support function and likely would have to be replaced to get factory system installed $$

so the receiver would be built into the BCM?

seems odd. considering it's got power locks, they're controlled by the BCM, and the BCM should be able to receive the signal to lock/unlock. it seems that you'd only need to add the receiver to send that signal, and would likely have to wire it in, using a harness that pre-exists, or the one left out for the base models...

the only thing that would make any sense would be to produce a BCM that excludes the remote start feature, but why would they bother to produce multiple BCMs that are going to vehicles built on the same line? it would be cheaper for them to just exclude the receiver and flash it with different code. then again, when does GM make too much sense with their decisions.

until it's been shown that there are different part numbers for the BCMs in the 4cyl models, i'm not convinced it can't be done without a total replacement.

even on my saturn, there is an entirely new PCM for the '05+ as opposed to the '04s, and using factory harnesses, we've been able to install the boost guage with adjustable ladder tach. all that was really missing was the harness. in '05 the cars came with the harness tucked away. at first it was thought that '04 model owners were SOL, but after some work a member made it work going by the '05 setups. it should be noted that the boost and RPM are both digital, and go through the PCM/BCM.

what we'd actually need to know are part numbers for anything related to the remote start/keyless entry (i.e., receivers, harnesses, PCM/BCM (would think the PCM is somewhat involved in remote start), even key fobs, etc.). this would let us know if they are indeed different, or just lacking a few components to enable a stock setup. i'm not convinced it's the BCM that doesn't support the function, but rather the code in the flash memory.

it may be a different story with a value car built without power locks/windows, other features, but i have my doubts about the limitations GM has placed on us. they're simply too cheap...

Remote keyless receiver is not in the BCM it is a separate module located on rear shelf between speakers. However that receiver module communicates to the BCM - the BCM does all the actual control.

BCM for vehicle without Remote Keyless option IS a different part number. It lacks the interface circuit to the receiver module and the extra relay used to unlock driver door only when you have remote keyless feature.

You will find this out when you get your vehicle - compare BCM part number to another vehicle. Likely your vehicle with have BCM P/N of 15274601 or older 15272035. BCM compatible with remote keyless has a P/N 1 digit higher.

Of course, a single BCM is used for service. It is uplevel version ;)

Receiver is not in the BCM it is a separate module however it communicates to the BCM which does all the actual control.

BCM for vehicle without Remote Keyless IS a different part number. You will find this out when you get your vehicle ;)

well then the next step is to figure out the actual difference between them (given you are correct in that the BCMs are in fact different).

for all we know the difference could be inclusion of the harnesses or not. or it could be the cobalt/ion BCM and be totally void of the ability.

methinks you've got more knowledge than you'd prefer to release.

i'm also of the conviction that going aftermarket for keyless entry and remote start might well be the cheaper and more convenient option. though what fun is that?

edit: just read your edit... i assume i'm looking at a couple hundred for the BCM alone, so i'm just going to shop around for aftermarket remote start that will enable keyless entry.

Yes I can provide more information but under this situation I didn't think it would be of any use. Your thought about replacement BCM cost is correct. I just hate the amount of wiring that aftermarket remote keyless/start systems likely impact and potential for goofing up something.

Yes I can provide more information but under this situation I didn't think it would be of any use. Your thought about replacement BCM cost is correct. I just hate the amount of wiring that aftermarket remote keyless/start systems likely impact and potential for goofing up something.

yeah. that's why it's going to get done at the dealer. if it was more cost effective, i'd get all components myself, hook 'em up in dealers lot, and push it in to be configured, but i'll just let them deal with it. this car will be a DD for years, so i'd prefer my warranty to be intact.

thanks for the help though!

Good choice :)

i'm also of the conviction that going aftermarket for keyless entry and remote start might well be the cheaper and more convenient option. though what fun is that?
Thats your best bet for sure.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd2/vikz99/Keyfob.jpg

Well at my local dealer.. there are 2 different type of remote starters available. The one with the LCD screen is either AP3 or AP8 code, and the one without the LCD is a AP8 code. The dealer called the tech line at GM and they said that the LCD one won't work with my 2007 G6, but the one without the LCD will work with my car. Now what i dont understand is that if the remote without the LCD screen which is considered AP8 code will work with my G6, then why wouldn't the one with the LCD screen that has the AP8 code?

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd2/vikz99/Keyfob.jpg

Well at my local dealer.. there are 2 different type of remote starters available. The one with the LCD screen is either AP3 or AP8 code, and the one without the LCD is a AP8 code. The dealer called the tech line at GM and they said that the LCD one won't work with my 2007 G6, but the one without the LCD will work with my car. Now what i dont understand is that if the remote without the LCD screen which is considered AP8 code will work with my G6, then why wouldn't the one with the LCD screen that has the AP8 code?

Hey guys!! I didnt really go through and read all the posts, but I work at a Chev/Buick/Pontiac dealership. I thought the LCD remote was for the G8, and new cars like the Traverse, but im not positive. Some g6's have the remote start already programmed into the car, like the GTs, but the tech's just need to use the computer to actually install it. I have the GT, and it didnt come with the Remote start, so I had the factory remote start installed a week after I bought it for about $236. That included the two remotes (which are about $100 each) and programming and labor. But that included my employee discount.

Im sorry, i was wrong. I the remote with the LCD screen was for longer distances. Im not sure why it wont work?? Have you tried going to another dealer maybe?

Hey.. well i figured out whats wrong with the 2007 G6 SE models. Some SE models are programmed with remote starter from factory and some aren't. So for instance my car didn't come with a remote starter but it did come with a keyless entry system. However, if i wanted to upgrade to a remote start (without LCD) it will work. But if i wanted to get the remote starter with the LCD screen it will not work.

The reason behind this is because SE models are not equipped with a command start pre-wiring. The techs needs this pre-wiring so they can add the module that the LCD remote starter comes with. The module will be needed because the LCD remote starter is a 2-way. If you wanted this command start to get installed on your car you can do it. But if you have a bumper to bumper warranty or extended warranty then it will VOID it.

Warranty?? Whats that? http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e386/lampooner/Emoticons/icon_lol.gif

its been 9 months so did anybody get this done?:confused:
or did all of you just give up:mad::D

Hey. I have had my remote starter installed (factory) and it works great. I had to get the one without the LCD installed.

It is still covered under the warranty and it does not VOID it ( only if it is installed at a GM dealer).

I'm going to make this thread a "sticky", to keep it on top.

hey vikz what model g6 you have? and did you ever find the "AP8" code that everyone was saying we need in our cars.i saw you posted about some se models come equipped with RPO AP8 which is a "Remote Starter Prep Package".

I have an 08 G6 SE. Originally when I got my vehicle inquiry system. It did not have the AP8 code. I went to couple of dealers and i called the dealer I bought my G6 from . One of them said not you cannot install it. The other dealer said no at first, but I kept bugging them and the part person said he'll look into it, and called and said it should work only if i get the one without the LCD. SO I went in and they did it for me. If one dealer is giving you problems then call others or go to others. This information is only based on the 07 G6 SE.

well i have an 07 g6 se 3.5 with sports package but never remote start,all the dealers are giving me bs there are only 2 dealers here in Fresno.so guess ill try one more time:banghead:
dealers:axechase:

hey sorry.. I made a mistake in my last post.. I have a 07 G6 SE. Just tell them that you can get the remote starter added on (just the basic one, not the LCD type) and that you have friends that got it without the AP8 showing in their vehicle inquiry system. Tell them to try it and that it won't hurt to try adding the remote starter. If they will, then it should work. Good luck. Let me know of the outcome.

iam gonna try that here in the next few weeks got to get my $$ together then go for it ill let you know what bs or good news i have.

heres some info i found on the pontiac website about this topic and some part numbers and prices.

http://www.gmaccessorieszone.com/Pontiac/2008/G6/Remote%20Start/?tx_gmshopb2b_pi1%5Btype%5D=gm

Wish List Accessory Name Part Number MSRP
Add to list 2-Way Advanced Remote Start - For Use on Vehicles with Extended Range Remote Lock Control (AP8) 17802069 $ 250.00

Add to list 2-Way Advanced Remote Start - For Use on Vehicles with Remote Keyless Entry and Engine Start (AP3) 19156553 $ 150.00

Add to list Factory Remote Start - For Use on Vehicles with Extended Range Remote Lock Control (AP8), Includes 2 Fobs 17800737 $ 195.00

Ok, I have read and read through posts about this topic until my eyes popped out and my question has not been answered.
Has any one attempted to install an after market Remote car starter? If so, any tricks or major problems you encountered? Did you have to get the transponder to bypass the door lock system? I bought a remote system for my 2007 Pontiac G6 GT that may already have one installed but I got it off ebay cheaper than $200 and I can do the manual labor if "allowed".
Any input would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks

i gave up :banghead:too many headaches

Well i didnt want to attempt to install aftermarket, because i have heard stories how it screws up things in the car. Like the car wont start, dead battery, stereo problems... etc..

I did look into aftermarket, and the one i really wanted was quite expensive. So i didnt think it was worth the money.

Anyone know what color the tach wire is on a 2007 G6 GT and where I can locate this wire? Any help would greatly be appreciated! Thanks
jzycby07@hotmail.com

i have an 08 gt with the + on the back of my key fob and above it it says GM/L:15252034 is it going to cost me the 195ish to get the remote start engaged, not that i will use it any, but it adds to resell value down the road u know;)

PM me ur vin number and I can check for you...

I called my dealer and ordered a kit. I have AP8. They guy tried to order it without a vin and it would not let him. I gave him the vin and it then accepted the order. I tried to install an aftermarket unit and it did not go so well. For what this factory item does and for the price, you cannot beat it. It looks like about an hour to install and I spent well over 12 hours with a multimeter trying to find the right wires to tap into. End result was the aftermarket unit didn't even completely work. I think the bypass unit is bad, but can't really test it.

To get a box that is plug and play and installs well is well worth the money asked. Just my 2 cents. Will chime in with more once I get it installed. Now, to un-install the aftermarket...

This might help clear some things up. I found it on another forum. I am going to the dealership tomorrow to order my parts!

GM ACCESSORIES - TO BUICK, CADILLAC, CHEVROLET, GMC, HUMMER AND PONTIAC DEALERS


Subject: Bulletin ACC08-020 - New Accessory! Dealer-Installed 2-Way Advanced Remote Start
Message #: VSE20080443


DESCRIPTION:
Introducing the innovative 2-Way Advanced Remote Start. Now available for select GM vehicles (see below for detailed vehicle application information). The 2-Way Advanced Remote Start allows customers to upgrade their factory keyless entry or factory remote start systems to provide enhanced functionality. In addition to extended range remote keyless entry*, extended range remote vehicle start, and standard functions like door lock/unlock, vehicle locator/panic alarm and power liftgate open/close (if vehicle is equipped), this new accessory also features technology that allows 2-way communication between the key fob transmitter and the vehicle.

The key fob transmitter provides immediate visual and audio confirmation that a key fob command (like start vehicle, lock/unlock doors, etc.) was received. The large, easy-to-read LCD screen displays status/data when within range of the vehicle such as Fuel Level, Tire Pressure, Odometer Reading (accurate within 1 mile), Clock/Remote Start Countdown Timer, and Key Fob Battery Life Indicator. Customers with vehicles equipped with steering wheel controls (UK3) can even scroll through their pre-set radio stations.**

* Up to three times as far as factory remote keyless entry
** excludes HHR and G6


EFFECTIVE DATE:
Immediately for all vehicles listed below except HHR. The 2-Way Advanced Remote Start for HHR will be available shortly.


QUALIFICATIONS:
Fits specific makes/models (see below for details).


ORDER INPUT:
Orders can be placed through your local Accessory Distributor Installer (ADI), or through your Parts Department to be charged against the open parts account.

Part Number Product Description:
2-Way Advanced Remote Start
for vehicles... Product Usage
Year - Make - Model MSRP Install Time
17802088 With AP8 (extended range remote keyless entry) and E61 (power liftgate) 2008 Buick Enclave
2007-2008 GMC Acadia $250.00 1.9 hrs
19156554 With AP3 (factory remote start) and E61 (power liftgate) 2008-2009 Buick Enclave
2007-2009 GMC Acadia $150.00 1.4 hrs
19171128 With AP8 (extended range remote keyless entry) and automatic transmission, without E61 (power liftgate) 2007-2009 Chevy Silverado Regular Cab (-C49)* & Crew/Extended Cab (-A48)**; Avalanche, Equinox
2007-2008 GMC Acadia
2007-2009 GMC Sierra Regular Cab (-C49)* & Crew/Extended Cab (-A48)**
2007-2009 Pontiac Torrent $250.00 1.9 hrs
19171129 With AP3 (factory remote start), without E61 (power liftgate) 2007-2009 Cadillac Escalade EXT
2007-2009 Chevy Silverado Regular Cab (-C49)* & Crew/Extended Cab (-A48)**; Tahoe Hybrid (+HP2); Avalanche, Equinox
2007-2008 GMC Acadia, Sierra Regular Cab (-C49)* & Crew/Extended Cab (-A48)**; Yukon Hybrid (+HP2)
2008-2009 HUMMER H2 SUT, SUV
2007-2009 Pontiac Torrent $150.00 1.4 hrs
17802087 With AU0 (remote keyless entry) and automatic transmission 2007-2009 Chevy Silverado Regular Cab (-C49)* & Crew/Extended Cab (-A48)**
2007-2009 GMC Sierra Regular Cab (-C49)* & Crew/Extended Cab (-A48)** $295.00 2.2 hrs
19157233 With AP8 (extended range remote keyless entry) and E61 (power liftgate); excludes Hybrids (-HP2) 2007-2009 Chevy Suburban, Tahoe
2007-2009 GMC Yukon, Yukon XL $250.00 1.6 hrs
17802071 With AP8 (extended range remote keyless entry) without E61 (power liftgate); excludes Hybrids (-HP2) 2007-2009 Buick Lucerne
2007-2009 Chevy Suburban, Tahoe
2007-2009 GMC Yukon, Yukon XL $250.00 1.6 hrs
19156555 With AP3 (remote vehicle start) without E61 (power liftgate); excludes Hybrids (-HP2) 2007-2009 Buick Lucerne
2007-2009 Chevy Suburban, Tahoe
2007-2009 GMC Yukon, Yukon XL $150.00 1.1 hrs
19157237 With AP3 (remote vehicle start) and E61 (power liftgate); excludes Hybrids (-HP2) 2007-2009 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV
2007-2009 Chevy Suburban, Tahoe
2007-2009 GMC Yukon, Yukon XL, Yukon Denali, Yukon XL Denali $150.00 1.1 hrs
17802069 With AP8 (extended range remote keyless entry) 2007-2009 Pontiac G6 $250.00 1.9 hrs.
19156553 With AP3 (remote vehicle start) 2007-2009 Pontiac G6 $150.00 1.6 hrs.
19157234 With AP3 (remote vehicle start) 2007-2009 Chevy HHR (excludes all Panel models) $150.00 1.7 hrs
* -C49 = Without Rear Defogger
** -A48 = Without Power Sliding Rear Window


GENERAL INFORMATION:
Antenna location varies by vehicle make/model.
Key fob can be programmed to control a second vehicle if that vehicle is also equipped with 2-Way Advanced Remote Start.
If reprogrammed, factory key fobs remain operational (except HHR & G6; 2-Way Advanced Remote Start kits for these vehicles include one new factory-style key fob to replace the factory fob).
To preserve battery life of the 2-Way Advanced Remote Start key fob transmitter, the image on the screen remains illuminated for approximately 5 seconds. To recall image to the screen, simply press any button once. To illuminate backlighting, press one of the side buttons once.
Important Installation Information:
• Estimated installation time: 1.1 – 2.3 hours, depending on vehicle
• Installation instructions available via Service Information (SI) website
• Requires service programming and scan tool
• Adhesion promoters are not included in kits. Order GM part number 12378555 for glass surfaces on '08 HHR and all full-size SUVs, or
12378462 for all other surfaces on all other vehicles.
• G6 requires a small piece of felt/flocking tape which is not currently included in the kit. Call 1-800-654-6333 to order BSR part number KT13296.
GM Accessories permanently installed at the time of new-vehicle delivery are covered under the New-Vehicle Limited Warranty. If installed after delivery, coverage (parts and labor) is for the balance of the New-Vehicle Limited Warranty, but not less than 12 months or 12,000 miles (whichever comes first). GM Accessories not requiring installation or purchased over the counter carry a 12 month limited warranty (parts only).
This product is also covered under GM Protection Plan (GMPP) Major Guard and Smart Protection vehicle service contracts. Please refer to the current GMPP administrative guide for coverage details.
If you have additional questions, please contact your District Parts Manager (DPM) or Regional Division Marketing Manager-Accessories (RDMM-A).

Hi,

I have a 2005 Pontiac G6 since 2008, and today something strange happend. I was outside the car, with the key in my hand and when i get into the car the climate systen was on. I haven't the autostart remote.
Just before get in, I know that I pressed many button before to unlock the door.
Someone can help me ? Is there a "code" ?

Thank you


Nancy from Switzerland

Just had my two-way GM remote start upgrade installed today. It works slicker than snot on a glass doorknob!! You can view your fuel level, current mileage and the time on the key-fob. Plus it gives you a count down timer after you remote start it. It has great range and a very fast response time. I wish you could adjust how long it runs for or turn on the heated seats, but oh well, it is definitely an upgrade from the one-way version.

Hi,

I have a 2005 Pontiac G6 since 2008, and today something strange happend. I was outside the car, with the key in my hand and when i get into the car the climate systen was on. I haven't the autostart remote.
Just before get in, I know that I pressed many button before to unlock the door.
Someone can help me ? Is there a "code" ?

Thank you


Nancy from Switzerland

Hello, Has this happened any other times or just this once?

I didn't know we had any G6's in Europe.

Hello, Has this happened any other times or just this once?

I didn't know we had any G6's in Europe.

Thanks for your answer.

It was the first time.

so would it be more of a hassle to go through this procedure of getting the factory alarm installed or would it just be cheaper to buy a aftermarket alarm and remote start

It would be less hassle to get the factory remote start then an aftermarket one. Especially if you are doing it yourself.

I have the AP8 RPO and ordered the upgrade. Had it installed and it now works great.

Hey guys!!!!

First of all, thanks for all the info posted on this topic.

Now, I know I may sound and/or be an idiot telling you this, but here it goes...

I have a 2005 G6 GT, factory equipped with remote start and I ordered the 2 way fob (part # 19156553).

Call me stubborn, call me stupid, whatever, this is listed for 2007 and up 6's.

I will be doing the installation myself and then taking it to the dealer to program it.

Hope it works, for all I know theres no reason not to.

I'll let you know between this week and the next how it turned out.

Well, dropped the car off this morning. They called in the afternoon and said the sealant was done but my car isnt set up for remote start. The manual says if the keyless entry has a "+" on the back, the car is pre-wired. I have the "+". The GM Techlink says the car has to have RPO AP8 installed. Where can I find if my car acutally has it?

if i look atg my vin at this site http://www.compnine.com/vid.php?vin=1G2ZH57N184182900 it says i have AP3 LOCK CONTROL REMOTE, KEYLESS ENTRY, START REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY & ENGINE START(AP3)....is this the same ac AP8 or what is the deal

FYI I can do factory remote start on ANY G6, even if its 2007+ and didnt have remote keyless entry to begin with :)

FYI I can do factory remote start on ANY G6, even if its 2007+ and didnt have remote keyless entry to begin with :)

OMG Can you seriously? Would you be willing to show/ tell how? I'm VERY interested in getting one, but they are going to charge like 100$ for programming. I have the AP8 already, I just need to get the keyfob.

It's nothing an end user can do, I'm going to be offering it as part of my custom BCM programming.

It's nothing an end user can do, I'm going to be offering it as part of my custom BCM programming.

Tell me about this programming.

Not sure if this is the right place to post this... I have a 2008 G6 GXP, I just purchased the factory two way remote start. I went to my local dealer and they want $300 to install the thing! So I went to where I had my alarm system installed in my other car and they only want $60, but said that dealer will still have to use the scan tool to make the remote work. Went back to the dealer and was told it will still be $140 for them to call GM and activate the remote. So my first question is, is it easy to install everything myself (The antenna, module, ect and where does everything go?) and save the $60 and then take it to the dealer to program? Or should I just find a dealer that will do it cheaper?