I'm curious how often you guys/gals take your G6 over 4500rpm and for how long. Do you think there are any negative affects by doing this on a day to day basis?

I beat my grand am up pretty good, and it didnt start burning oil until 130,000KM

I pound on mine on a regular basis. It's a lease so I don't worry too much about powertrain issues.

everytime I'm in tapshift mode I redline it lol. Can't help it. It sounds too nice and it gives you a nice kick!

Mike

everytime I'm in tapshift mode I redline it lol. Can't help it. It sounds too nice and it gives you a nice kick!

Mike
I do the same thing, but my kick is packing 40 less HP!

I don't beat on mine alot. A couple weeks ago in the rain I floored it doing 40ish, shifted to 2nd to pass and it got really loose on me. Yet another time traction control saved me butt! :D Do you really have to redline it when peak torque is <3,000 RPM? Then agian, I didn't lease mine so I'll be paying for it for 5 years. That's probably the only time I've been hard on it.

Several times a day.

You have to just to get around the blue-hairs futzing along down the main drag at 20 in the left lane - at least that's MY excuse.

The way I see it, If GM Powertrain didn't think it was safe to go past 4500rpm, then they would have put the rev limiter there instead of 6200....

I'd have to say quite a few times a week. I'm usually the first car out in multilane traffic... Not so much to taunt anyone (;) ) but for my own satisfaction. I can't help it other drivers take it to heart. :p

My excuse is that stoplights that are timed to a 45 MPH speed limit would also be timed to 90 MPH.

I take the turnpike everyday and I find that the long , gentle curved entrance ramps are a great way to test 0-60 times every morning :) Of course in manual mode though !

The way I see it, If GM Powertrain didn't think it was safe to go past 4500rpm, then they would have put the rev limiter there instead of 6200....
Yep. :)

Cars were meant to be driven.

Yep. :)

Cars were meant to be driven.

Yeah but how long/hard before you start to burn oil or have tranny slip.... etc.

Yeah but how long/hard before you start to burn oil or have tranny slip.... etc.

I had a 2.5L in a late 80's Buick that ran to 160,000 miles before the tranny started to hurl, and I drove the crap out of that thing. Never burned any oil.

My truck made it to 165,000 before the tranny gave up the ghost, rebuilt it for $1800 and I'm still pounding the crap out of it. Uses about 1/4 quart between changes.

GM knows how to build a drivetrain. They may not result in the fastest or most powerful vehicles on the planet, but they're tough.

Cars are only designed to last to 100,000 miles (if that). Do you think if they built a car that last forever they could possibly keep making money and increasing profits every year? They would put themselves out of business. Thats why you can buy aftermarket parts that last 100x longer than the parts on your new 40 or 50 thousand dollar car.

Cars are only designed to last to 100,000 miles (if that). Do you think if they built a car that last forever they could possibly keep making money and increasing profits every year? They would put themselves out of business. Thats why you can buy aftermarket parts that last 100x longer than the parts on your new 40 or 50 thousand dollar car.

Thats far from true. The last 2 cars my dad had he drove to 250,000 miles with no drivetrain issues. Granted they were all highway miles. I'm sure he would still be driving the 2nd one had it not been stolen from the GM parking lot! :)

Always exceptions.. I know a handful of people who have driven LT1 powered Caprice/Corvettes and fbodys to 200+ thousand miles... I also know of HUNDREDS who made it 50~75K and all hell broke loose. :)

I drive mine to redline. In fact, on Christmas Eve, I took the G6 out and shot it right past the redline!














I also killed the engine... :(

As far as the cars only lasting 100,000 miles... I had a 97 Monte Carlo with 130,000 on a 3.1, and when it hit 127 the tranny started to slip, and I drove that thing HARD!!! Never burned oil and I never had to replace the manifold gasket or O ring like most people had to do. People buy new cars because of the look of it and features and because of this urban myth that cars dont last long. Anything can last long if its properly maintained. Sure a car will burn oil, if you dont change it but every 7,000 miles!! A tranny can slip with 10,000 miles on it, cars are nothing but a crap shoot...

yea that 100,000 mile comment was way off. My girlfriend has a '95 celica with 130,000 miles on it and it's in great shape. And my friend has a 3000GT with over 150,000 miles. And people I know at work have had American trucks for well over 170,000 miles.

Mike

The odd thing is, that I've seen more babied engines blown than beat up ones (thats 2 years at an Advanced Auto Parts and 5 at Napa talking here)... but I must say that bouncing off the rev limiter isnt going to help any car LOL!! If cars were meant to be babied, we'd all have 3L Geo engines...power and gearing is made for a reason, to be used!!

P.S.- My RX7 (r.i.p LITERALLY) had 138,xxx with a single turbo conversion pushin 400+ was all original.. well minus the turbo upgrade hehe

You're right..maybe the 100K number is probably off for newer cars...

Cmon.. as a car maker offering a warranty for 50,000 miles / 3 years (for example) you obviously don't need to worry about what happens after that 50k/3 year mark. Why should they?

You're right..maybe the 100K number is probably off for newer cars...



The "newer cars" part is just as far off.

1968 3/4 ton pickup - 250,000 miles and still going on the original engine with new intake and carb, doesn't use oil.
1973 Chevelle - 98,000 miles and still going on the original engine (in the body of a 1979 Grand Prix cuz the Chevelle was rolled on the hiway) with new intake, FI, and high compression heads, doesn't use oil.
1979 Grand Prix - 120,000 miles and still going when it was replaced with the Chevelle engine cuz the 301 was a WEAK engine.
1987 Buick Somerset - 160,000 miles and still going when I traded it, used 1/2 quart between changes.
1991 Grand Prix GTP - 150,000 miles and still going when I traded it, didn't use oil.
1993 1/2 ton pickup - 178,000 and still going on the original engine, uses 1/2 quart between changes.
2001 Malibu (R.I.P) - 68,000 miles and running like nuts when the wife totalled it.
2005 G6 GT - 26,000 miles and running like gangbusters.

There are no vehicles in between, and there are no exceptions to my philosophy of "drive it like you stole it." Anything will last if you provide proper maintenance.

And I have owned and buried just as many vehicles with less than 75K on the clock. (Good old Quad 4 ;) )... Also if you add tons of miles in a year those perspective changes a lot.. (I was pumping 30K a year for a while and my cars would make it over the 100K mark with ease)....

Sorry I have seen way more cars NOT make the 100K hump than I have make it without a major failure.

Sorry I have seen way more cars NOT make the 100K hump than I have make it without a major failure.

And my experience has been exactly the opposite, because I don't "bury" them. I trade or sell them when I'm done with them. All depends on how it's maintained and who's doing the maintenance.

Do the math and you'll see they weren't "fast" mile accumulators. 30K in a year? That's not high miles, that's almost expected if you drive 20 miles to work every day, which is not uncommon in just about any metro area these days.

And none of them are highway mile coasters - the only one in the group that has accrued any real highway miles is the G6. All the rest were/are slogged around town in stop-n-go, pedal on the floor, with both trucks being thoroughly abused (3/4 ton pulls a 25' travel trailer with a camper in the bed, 1/2 ton pulls a 3 horse trailer on its class4 bumper).

All depends on how it's maintained and who's doing the maintenance.

That is true.

That is true.

I must admit that I work with an in"duh"vidual that thinks there's nothing more to keeping a car going than putting gas in it.

I'd hate to pull the plug and drain THAT oil.

eww.. speaking of my change oil message came on yesterday. time to hand over some dough at the dealer. (want that crap documented so I have no issues unloading this thing)

(want that crap documented so I have no issues unloading this thing)

Amen to that.