I am in the Toronto area and now that the rain/ice/snow weather is here I have a couple of questions with regards to the tires on G6 GT sedan with 17" continental tires. Whenever i am starting up from a stop on wet roads i sense the tires spinning and the traction control comes on. I haven't had this happen with other cars. Is this normal. Are the tires that bad and should I get winter tires. I only have 12000 kms on it
It is possible that the G6 V6 has different tires. But if this is happening to me on wet roads I can't imagine what it will be ice or snow.
Another weird thing that happened a few minutes I put the car in reverse from parked location, as it was reversing it moved a foot or so, the engine died, lost power to the brakes and steering and kept moving another foot or so as it was on a slope. Fortunately there was nobody behind. Anybody seen happen
Yokohama Avid V4S. Based on what I've seen in the first few thousand miles, I'll be switching all my vehicles to these if they are available in the right sizes.
In addition to the better wet traction I've gotten, the ride is much smoother and I no longer have the annoying shaking from flat-spotted tires nor the pulling to one side that I now attribute to the old tires.
Hate to say it, but I'm almost looking forward to getting some snow to try them out on it.
Thought the GT came with 17inch rims instead of 16s and different tires??
My tires are horrible on anything but dry pavement. Not looking forward to the snow and ice again this year... getting stuck last year was more than enough.
funny you should mention the 'red stripe' as i was thinking the same thing. my stealth gray sedan, chrome wheels and 'red stripe' tires would look really good together......i wonder if Pontiac has thought of that? after all, they DID bring back the GTO.....well, sort of.
as for the yokohamas, i had them on my accord and they are great, all year long. even in the SNOW!!!
Just FYI, I'm sure most are aware, but with a FWD car with 200+ ft/lbs of TQ available as low as it is in V6 models (3.5 and 3.9), you're going to spin any tire.
Just FYI, I'm sure most are aware, but with a FWD car with 200+ ft/lbs of TQ available as low as it is in V6 models (3.5 and 3.9), you're going to spin any tire.
My car doesnt build much low end power .. not sure why you would think that?? Direcctly off the line these cars are not slamming down 200+ft lbs of trq or they might actually pull of the line somewhat decent. Aside from that 220ft lbs would be WOT numbers..I am sure we are only talking 50ft lbs or so under light acceleration during everyday travels.. In which case.. crappy tires = spinning. If we had the extra grunt the GTP has I wouldnt be so inclined to blame the tires.
Of course I had several sets of Potenzas that could handle WOT with over 300rwhp and 350ft lbs of trq in the wettest conditions you could think of... so maybe I would
I'm purely aware of that, I've just read several threads simply stating "my tires spin off the line and they must be crap" or the like, and while I agree both the LS2s and Continentals, and just about any other OEM tire sucks, that even the best will spin off the line in a FWD car with this power in the wet, period. How much they spin, and how quickly they eventually hookup will differentiate the good ones from the bad ones.
I also beg to differ in the amount of torque available down low. While this is not a discussion about this, but about tires, the 3.5 and 3.9 both put 85% - 90% of their peek torque down slightly above 1000 rpm. The car's weight can mask this feeling and subsequently cause even more tire spin in an effort to move the heavier vehicle.
And let's not bring WOT into this, because the difference in tq-power between partial tip-in to full tip-in is minimal.
All I'm saying is that the heavy G6 will be more difficult to move initially. And even at 1/2 throttle, your torque figure is still substantially high, high enough to break free if a friction inhibitor, like water, is present given the weight of the vehicle. How quickly the tire evacuates the water and bites to finally create movement would indicate how good of a tire it is, but it's still going to spin no matter how good it is, I guarantee it.
haha..sorry wasn't disputing everything you said... I was just refering to the last part.. I dont have any hard data to show what the percentage difference is WOT vs partial throttle so I was merely saying I will have to take your word for it.
haha..sorry wasn't disputing everything you said... I was just refering to the last part.. I dont have any hard data to show what the percentage difference is WOT vs partial throttle so I was merely saying I will have to take your word for it.
I don't have any hard core either, but general rule of thumb is 1/4 = 60%, 1/2 = 75%, 3/4 = 90%...Though every car is different to some extent. I've had a couple cars that were easily 99%+ at 3/4, with only transmission changes/adjustments occuring at WOT (quicker kickdown) etc. My 04 goat would run within .5 sec (I should say less than .5 sec) of my WOT quarter mile times with the gas pedal blocked to approx. 3/4 throttle (long story, it was a bet...kinda like a "one hand tied behind my back" thing...)
I don't have any hard core either, but general rule of thumb is 1/4 = 60%, 1/2 = 75%, 3/4 = 90%...Though every car is different to some extent. I've had a couple cars that were easily 99%+ at 3/4, with only transmission changes/adjustments occuring at WOT (quicker kickdown) etc. My 04 goat would run within .5 sec (I should say less than .5 sec) of my WOT quarter mile times with the gas pedal blocked to approx. 3/4 throttle (long story, it was a bet...kinda like a "one hand tied behind my back" thing...)
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Yes, DBW sucks. The 05 GTO has it, and it's plagued with slow response and failures (and parts availability problems from AU). DBW needed a little more work before they put it into performance cars...
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I'm purely aware of that, I've just read several threads simply stating "my tires spin off the line and they must be crap" or the like, and while I agree both the LS2s and Continentals, and just about any other OEM tire sucks, that even the best will spin off the line in a FWD car with this power in the wet, period. How much they spin, and how quickly they eventually hookup will differentiate the good ones from the bad ones.
Well, the rest of us were apparently able to better discern the gist of the statements since we didn't feel the need to debate the semantics of missing clarifiers.
The answers were therefore geared toward providing a better traction solution for wet weather. Everything that was said was factually correct, all replies were likewise factually correct.
Why toss in a "yeah, but..." when it doesn't contribute anything except pointing out something that is blatantly obvious to everybody here?
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