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Old 09-16-2009, 10:23 AM   #1
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Hard Starting G6

Ok, My fiancee claims that every so often when she tries starting her car it will take a long time. She will turn it over for a full 5 seconds, but it never fires. Usually if she stops and waits it will eventually start up, but when it does it sputters for the first little bit. Last night she said it took like 2 or 3 minutes of turning over and waiting and when it did start it sputtered. She is getting 24 mpg and it runs great after it starts and the sputtering is done.

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Old 09-16-2009, 10:27 AM   #2
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Could be either gas, fuel injector's clogged, or the car BCM needs reprogrammed. Take your pick, but it's a known issue with 05/06s.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:45 AM   #3
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I don't see how a car with 40,000 miles would have a clogged injectors or a fuel pump issue... If this were the case the car would stumble all the time wouldn't it? BCM? What is the BCM I am only familiar with and ECU. How could this BCM loose its "tune" it started fine this whole time.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:31 AM   #4
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BCM has to do with the battery I believe. I don't remember what it exactely stands for. Some people found success with the overcranking when the dealer "reflashed" the BCM. There's not one good solution to the problem unfortunately.
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Old 09-17-2009, 09:01 PM   #5
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Body Control Module, like Engine Control Module (Unit)

The BCM controls everything in the car from the radio, Cruise, Door locks, to the ECM and Fuel Pump
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:25 AM   #6
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Could be a bad tank of gas.
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Old 09-18-2009, 07:31 AM   #7
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Body Control Module, like Engine Control Module (Unit)

The BCM controls everything in the car from the radio, Cruise, Door locks, to the ECM and Fuel Pump
And the time it takes to start when you tap the key. "Because the G6 has the crank to start feature"
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hypothesis

My 2005 G6 has the exact issues as the first post.
It has happened (hard starting sputtering) when I have left a DC plug in the cigarette lighter, phone or radar detector etc. 3 times now. & not when there is nothing in the socket.
So perhaps the BCM somehow is off if there is extra resistance in a circuit? & causes a starting issue.
It is perhaps coincidence and I am planning to have an appointment at a GM dealer service center in a couple of days. Im just afraid it will be "the car has no codes story"
so what do you think?
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:45 PM   #9
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Hi. My car has the same problem as well. The car starts fine if it's been left for awhile, but sometimes if you turn the car off and try to start it again within a few minutes the car just turns over and won't start, unless you push the gas pedal down. Which leads me to think the car floods itself and i know it's weird for a fuel injected car to get flooded. After the car is running it works fine with pretty good gas millage. Just wondering if anyone knows whats wrong or if your having the same problem?

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I backed out of my planned visit to the dealership. Just because it hasnt happened since. I think you may be on to something with the engine being flooded. The service tech that I spoke with told me the remote starter option on the car causes the starter to continue cranking. That is what concerned me most, because it differed from the normal smooth quick start.
I do not know how long it would continue cranking before it either started or stops trying to start. Does anyone know if it is on a timed relay?
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:06 PM   #11
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I backed out of my planned visit to the dealership. Just because it hasnt happened since. I think you may be on to something with the engine being flooded. The service tech that I spoke with told me the remote starter option on the car causes the starter to continue cranking. That is what concerned me most, because it differed from the normal smooth quick start.
I do not know how long it would continue cranking before it either started or stops trying to start. Does anyone know if it is on a timed relay?
My car has the same problem! I do not have a remote starter though! I am taking it to the dealer tomorrow will post results! The main reason i am taking it in there is because I have owned the car a week and already have the steering lock up issue!!!
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Well the funny thing is my car has been fine since. Has been starting normally without any problems, so not sure what was wrong. I am interested in what the dealer has to say tho in case the problems returns.
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My car has the same problem! I do not have a remote starter though! I am taking it to the dealer tomorrow will post results! The main reason i am taking it in there is because I have owned the car a week and already have the steering lock up issue!!!
Did you learn anything useful from the dealer on the starter issue? My wife's '06 is having a similar issue.
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no but I did have the dealer clean all the injectors and it hasnt done it since
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i had the same issue, couldnt hear the pump when key was turned to on position.

FINALLY FOUND THE PROBLEM AFTER 6 MONTHS OF FRUSTRATING STARTS AND MONEY WASTED!

its the connection between the fuel pump to the relay behind the rear fusebox.
I pushed the connection (wire harness) together to the back of the fusebox where the fuel pump relay is located on the fusebox. seems to be a misconnection that won't allow the power to reach the fuel pump.

still havent fixed it properly but starts instantly, atleast i know where the problem is located.
hope it helped you guys somehow...
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