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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-10-2005, 07:49 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation ABS or just BS?

Here is something new. Now that the snow is gone and most of the ice is melted, I broke out the G6. Just to see how it felt, I locked it up on a patch of ice and to my suprise, it did just that, locked up! No ABS action at all. I tried it again and the same thing... The ABS idiot light lights up at startup, as it should. I'll be calling the dealer Monday, but I don't have much faith in the service dept.
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post #2 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-10-2005, 09:19 PM
 
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did it make the usual ABS 'buzzing' noise when you had them "locked up" or was it silent?

i for one turned off my traction control when on snow or ice. it was the constant noise from the system while it was functioning that drove me bananas.
after driving it both ways, i prefer to drive without traction control, as i said, on the snow or ice but WILL leave it engaged all other times, such as on dry and wet pavement.
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post #3 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-11-2005, 07:33 AM
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Here is something new. Now that the snow is gone and most of the ice is melted, I broke out the G6. Just to see how it felt, I locked it up on a patch of ice and to my suprise, it did just that, locked up! No ABS action at all. I tried it again and the same thing... The ABS idiot light lights up at startup, as it should. I'll be calling the dealer Monday, but I don't have much faith in the service dept.
They will lockup at really slow speed, almost stopped.
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post #4 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-11-2005, 08:34 AM Thread Starter
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There was no sound at all, but for the sound of tires on ice. I was going maybe 20 mph when I locked them up, but they should still work all the way to a stop. I don't have traction control on my G6 V6, Action.
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post #5 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-11-2005, 12:20 PM
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If you don't have traction control on your V6, then you don't have ABS.

The ABS is an available option on the V6, but comes bundled with traction control. Better check your window sticker.
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post #6 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-11-2005, 01:47 PM
 
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^ Yep, 100% correct. Hope you didn't call your dealer to complain about your ABS not working when you don't even realize you don't have it...
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post #7 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-11-2005, 01:54 PM
 
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post #8 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-11-2005, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
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Wow, this is going to piss me off... Was told it had "Front wheel ABS", 4 wheel ABS was the option.... Well, when I run it into a tree, I'll know what to order next time.. Like a Honda....
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Wow, this is going to piss me off... Was told it had "Front wheel ABS", 4 wheel ABS was the option.... Well, when I run it into a tree, I'll know what to order next time.. Like a Honda....
Never heard of ABS on only two wheels.

What would be the point of allowing two wheels to lock up and not the other two?

You think a Honda dealer couldn't give someone bad information too?
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post #10 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-12-2005, 01:32 AM
 
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Wow, this is going to piss me off... Was told it had "Front wheel ABS", 4 wheel ABS was the option.... Well, when I run it into a tree, I'll know what to order next time.. Like a Honda....
LOL, ABS is optional on Hondas as well . No offense, but I've never been "told" anything that I didn't also research myself. The "front wheel ABS" would have given it away.
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post #11 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-12-2005, 06:43 AM Thread Starter
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2 wheel ABS is very common on vehicles, including my Grand Cherokee. If you can keep the fronts from locking up, you still have steering. Locking the rears is not a prob if you know how to drive.
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post #12 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-12-2005, 08:41 AM
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2 wheel ABS was standard on early 90's 2wd S10 (and perhaps other) pickups on the rear drive wheels. In the pickups, it was to help compenstate for the loaded/unloaded differences on behavior.
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2 wheel ABS was standard on early 90's 2wd S10 (and perhaps other) pickups on the rear drive wheels. In the pickups, it was to help compenstate for the loaded/unloaded differences on behavior.
Exactly, It was called rear wheel abs on RWD trucks and very few RWD SUVs, and even fewer RWD vans. ABS only on the front of a front wheel drive car would be redundant, because the rear wheels, which are non-power and non-steering are what really need the abs because you have no other form of control in the rear. The front's need it to, but to regulate and create traction in the front, but not the rear of a FWD vehicle would be a disaster.

2 wheel ABS is has been history pretty much for many years. Was big in the 90s, died in the 00s. It's no longer common at all.

Blame can certainly be placed on the person who mislead you, but I'd mull over the specifications myself as well next time. I put 100% faith in my own research before I put faith in other people's research.

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post #14 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-12-2005, 10:09 AM
 
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I have rear wheel only ABS on my 97 Chevy S10 and it works great; ABS on the G6 GT rules.

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I have front wheel only ABS on my 97 Chevy S10
That would be rear wheel only...
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