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Hello, G6 owners,

I own a 2005 pointiac G6, a 6 cylinder with 47000 miles on it. I got it with 34000 miles in August of 2007. Since the day i got it, the car has been terribly pulling left mainly on the high way (if i let go of the wheel while on the high way in the left lane i'll be on the grass in about 5 seconds). The faster i go the harder it pulls. I lost count of how many times i did the allignment on it. I took it to Firestone and NTB. Both did allignment on it about 4 times each and did not result in fixing the problem. Both places told me that there was nothing wrong with the suspension. On the high way it pulls no matter what lane i'm in. Of course the left lane pulls the most. It's really annoying that i have to hold the car from going left constantly. I recently replaced the rack and pinion assembly on it and did the allignment at NTB again. No change at all. Still pulls the same exact way. Say i'm on the high way and i let go of the wheel: it turns by itself and starts to lean left meaning that it's not the steering wheel possition. I'm sure that all the tire rods and control arms are good but i cannot find a way to make it stop pulling.

If anybody ever had that problem or knows a solution please let me know.

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Sounds like your car is "Dog Legging". Have somebody follow you for a couple miles.Ever see a dog walk,its front legs are strait & its hind legs are off to 1 side so the dog actually never walks strait.
 

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so what are you saying? ... when i let go of the wheel it just turns left on it's own and pulls the car with it ... like the car is heavier on the left side ... what could cause that?

thanks for the reply
 

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Think of your car as a X ,the 4 points of of the X are your tires. if the points don't align up perfectly it will track wrong. It could be a number of reasons,the car could of been in a accident,could of hit a curb & bent the uni body,the strut towers could be bent, strut tower bearings/bushings worn, rear bushings etc. When the shop did the alignment ,did thay do a 4 wheel alignment?
 

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ummm ... yeah they did a 4 wheel allignment ...

so how do i check all that stuff? ... cuz i definately don't want to take it to a stealership cuz i never trusted them ... they lie

you were right about the accident though because i got it from an online auction hit in the rear ... but it wasn't hit all that hard though ... all i reaplaced was the rear bumper, the left tail light, the trunk lid and the rear metal sheet ... the hit didn't even reach the suspension ... the rails were all good and the floors weren't even damaged ...

so ... how can i figure out what's going on with it?

thanks so much for the info
 

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ive seen a bad tire cause a vehicle to pull, maybe try rotating a few tires around. also, is it possible the brake is dragging on the front tire?
also, dog legging is called dog tracking. basically the rear wheels will not follow the front wheels. see below. this usually happens when the vehicle has been broadsided and not properly straightened.

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no all tires were worn out when i bought the car and i put brand new tires on it ... bfgoodrich all season ...

hmmm ... that does sound like something that could have happend but wouldn't the allignment fix that? plus again the car was hit very slightly ... no frame damage was caused ...

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A sticking caliper would generate a lot of heat,you could smell it burning.You could find a level surface after hitten the brakes about a dozen times,put the car in Nutreal & see if you can push it,or try that on a slight incline & see if it rolls back on its own.
You can get a tapemeasure & get a couple point to point measurements on the front & rear of the car & see if their the same on both sides. Only other thing i can think of is a collision center that does uni body work & have then go over it,I would ask for a Estimate 1st tho.
 

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ok ... i'm not exactly sure what you mean by uni body ...

that's a really good advice though about the mesuring tape ... i'm gonna do that on saturday and see ...

thanks a lot
 

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A manufacturing process where sheet metal body parts are combined with stress-bearing elements to form the body and chassis as a single piece, as opposed to attaching body parts to a frame.
Uni Body construction, No "Full Frame"
 

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so i checked the distance between the centers of wheels today and it was exactly the same on both sides ...

it's most likely not the uni body because it wasn't hit hard enough to damage even the floor in the trunk ... uni body is pretty hard to bend if i get what it is

this thing is making me mad :mad: ... i don't even know what to do with it anymore ... how can a car be pulling left with no particular reason and when 2 different companies did allignment on it? ... i just don't understand it
 

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oh and also there's slight vibration when i'm driving on the high way ... even if the road is new it still vibrates and i can feel it on the steering wheel ... i know that could be the ballance on the tires but it started that after the last time i did the allignment on it ... and when i got the new tires they ballanced them ... what's going on?
 

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so i just searched for more forums and found someone else with that same problem i have ... a guy had the same thing going on on his 2005 chevy cobalt ... the dealreship told him that it was the steering column ... that there this computer electric steering thing in there and it needs to be replaced ... his symptoms are exactly like mine so i think i have the same problem on mine ... i'm gonna try to see if i can find a steering column that i can buy
 

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hmmmm ... so yeah ... i replaced the whole steering column and the motor that conects to it ... but it didn't solve the problem ... i'm pissed ...
 

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i have a 2006 g6 v6 model.and i can feel a vibration coming fromthe front right side and int he steering wheel alittle bit.but when i brake i feel it most of all.like when im on the highway at like 70 slowing down to 35 to get off on an exit.

any ideas on what it could be.im totally lost..
 

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spudsg6- you have warpped rotors from driving and hitting the brakes to hard to stop...simple fix, either get them rotated, or replace them with new ones.


daygon- im sorry you are going thru all this but i am going to go ahead and say that it actually is not that hard at all to throw a uni-body out of whack if it has been hit, hard or lightly....you do need to take it to a collision center that works on uni-bodies and get them to check it out and give you an estimate on what the cost of repairs would be IF they could repair it. Refer back to G6~Mike little picture he has in his post to you, your car to the eye might not be noticeable at all but it could be riding as such and a collision center can get it on a rack and tell you what is going on since they go over the car entirely...needless to say you might be without a car for a day but it should help get things solved....tell them that it has been in a wreck prior to you purchasing it and what it has been doing while you are driving it...even if you can't see damages doesn't mean it is not there...are you also still having vibrating issues now that you have gotten some mileage on your new tires?
 

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spudsg6- you have warpped rotors from driving and hitting the brakes to hard to stop...simple fix, either get them rotated, or replace them with new ones.


daygon- im sorry you are going thru all this but i am going to go ahead and say that it actually is not that hard at all to throw a uni-body out of whack if it has been hit, hard or lightly....you do need to take it to a collision center that works on uni-bodies and get them to check it out and give you an estimate on what the cost of repairs would be IF they could repair it. Refer back to G6~Mike little picture he has in his post to you, your car to the eye might not be noticeable at all but it could be riding as such and a collision center can get it on a rack and tell you what is going on since they go over the car entirely...needless to say you might be without a car for a day but it should help get things solved....tell them that it has been in a wreck prior to you purchasing it and what it has been doing while you are driving it...even if you can't see damages doesn't mean it is not there...are you also still having vibrating issues now that you have gotten some mileage on your new tires?
thanks for the reply but i work at a collision center ... and i've checked the unibody ... it's fine it's not the unibody ... i'm still blaming the electronics ... it's interesting ... i only noticed that like a week ago ... when i'm exelarating in the city going from 0-to whatever speed it pulls as long as your foot's on the gas ... as soon as you let go it stops pulling ... feels like the harder you exelarate the harder it pulls ... what the heck could that be?

i'm taking it too the dealership tomorrow ... see if then can tell me what's wrong with it ... i'm really tired of trying to fix it myself ...

no the vibration is not there anymore ... it goes away sometimes and then pays me a visit later :) ... i'm pretty sure it's just the ballance is a little off
 
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