Pontiac G6 Forum banner

2010 Speedometer Swap HOW-TO

57885 Views 180 Replies 41 Participants Last post by  boomer
10
Here is my write up on how to upgrade your G6's speedometer cluster with the 2009.5-2010 cluster with the integrated DIC (Driver Information Center)

This is the OEM option to move the DIC from the stereo to the cluster so that you can run a full sized head unit without losing any factory settings or features. It's way nicer looking than the metra dash kits, way cheaper, and the wiring is actually pretty simple if you already have the factory cruise control.

Side Note: 2005-2009 G6's have a small speaker on the back of the gauge cluster that plays the turn signal sound and all of the chimes and tones.
2009.5-2010 run those sounds through the stereo.
As a result several modules exist to retain those chimes. Some modules also include RAP (Retained Accessory Power) and OnStar.

Here are three modules I found:
Axxess GMOS-LAN-03 Wiring Interface - Retains RAP, OnStar, and Safety Warning Chimes
Metra LC-GMRC-LAN-03 Wiring Interface - Only retains Safety Warning Chimes
PAC OS-311B Wiring Interface - Retains RAP, OnStar and Safety Warning Chimes (I used this one)

Now onto getting ready for your swap.
First you'll need to purchase the speedometer of your choice.
As far as I know there are two designs of the updated cluster with the DIC



and



That one is the actual picture of mine, I couldn't find a good clear one online and I didn't take one before I swapped the needles.
I chose this cluster because it looks just like my old one, The numbers are slightly larger. some idiot lights were moved, and the needles were the same as the other updated cluster, I decided to swap in the older ones to match it better.
As you can see it also lights up White. It's also fully lit up anytime the ignition is on with the lights off.

I decided to tint the backside of the gauge face with red tinted vinyl to make the lights match the rest of the car. It worked out well but makes it a tad darker.
I'll eventually be soldering new LEDs to the board.



You can see the gaps in lighting when the dimmer is turned down.


Once you found your speedometer you need to also get the new Info and Enter buttons so you can control the Speedometer DIC.

This can be found by looking for a 2010 Pontiac G6 Cruise Control Switch (This only fits the 3 spoke steering wheel, Older G6's with the 4 spoke steering wheel will not fit this button)
ACDelco D1952F


You'll also be adding a wire, So you'll need a specific pin to fit the connector on the cluster.
I ended up buying a connector with wires attached off ebay, since I only needed one I'll sell off the remaining wires to whoever else wants to do the swap. Look for it in the For Sale Section.

Here's the pin and wire.


And you will need to extend the wire so there is a little more play room behind the cluster.
I went with green to match everything better.


I have several pins/wires available for anyone wanting to do the swap. Here is the listing for them on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282357013875


Now that you have all your parts ready, You can get all your tools and anything else ready!
You will need:

  • 7mm socket with extensions (I used a nut driver with a couple of extensions)
  • Small Flathead Screwdriver
  • Torx Bits/Wrenches (If not available you can use Allen/Hex keys as none of the screws should be very tight)
  • Soldering Iron (If you plan to solder your wiring connection) (There's only one)
  • Wire stripper/cutter (crimper if not soldering)
  • Heat Shrink tubing or Electrical Tape
  • Little pokey stick, like a toothpick

Let me begin by saying that some minimal wiring is involved. And you have to remove the air bag module from the steering wheel.
I strongly advise that you disconnect your battery and wait a few minutes before starting just to be safe.

If you do not feel comfortable with doing any wiring to your vehicle then I don't recommend you undertake this project yourself.
You'll only be working on one small signal wire.
I am NOT Responsible for any damage or problems that may occur to your vehicle. This How-to is intended as only a guide to help aid you with your swap. Some trim levels and years may be different so I can't be absolutely sure this will work on every G6.
(However, the wiring diagrams from 2005-2009 for the cluster all look identical)


NOW WE CAN GET TO THE SWAP!

We'll start by removing the Gauge Cluster.

First you'll need to remove the Bezel around the Cluster.
To Begin there are two small Torx Screws at the top of the bezel.


There are then two panel clips behind the bezel at the bottom, It'll take a little pulling to yank them out. I tilted the bezel forward so I can reach a few fingers behind it to pop it out.
The two clips are located around where the red circles are:


Then you just need to remove the upper steering column cover, This can be done by pulling up on either side by the stalks

Once removed the bezel and steering wheel column cover can be removed as one piece.

I also pulled the steering wheel as far forward and down as I can for maximum room
See less See more
  • Like
Reactions: 1
141 - 160 of 181 Posts
i stuck the 2010 cluster in without changing any wires to see if i like it.the info button on the radio controls both displays.i do like that the temperature is on the speedometer.
btw if you pry off the back of the old cluster looking for a way to transfer over the the chime module the guage needles fall off.you can put them back on IF you see where they pointed before.
Sorry I didn’t quote you, I was curious how much you would sell the cluster for? You can email me at [email protected]
Thanks!
Hea Joey, did he ever get back to you on that cluster? And, it's been a few months, how has your g6 been?
I am trying to figure out which cluster I need, decided to go new. GM Parts - Genuine OEM GM Parts and Accessories Online My car is an 08 G6 Convertible 3.5. I already purchased a stereo JVC KW-M650BT. I know I will need a wiring harness and the steering wheel control. Just would rather change out cluster than have a box with screen that I have to figure where to put it.
Hea Joey, did he ever get back to you on that cluster? And, it's been a few months, how has your g6 been?
Yes, sorry, haven't been online in a while, I did the swap, I got the cluster for $50, and everything is awesome, I got an aftermarket radio (Kenwood DDX9705S). I'll post a more descriptive update later
Cool, i can't wait! I ended up going with a Kenwood DMX7706S. I just am struggling to find the cluster I want since the one i'm aiming to find is the red with DIC in it. I don't want the white one and i'm a bit too lazy to re-LED it. and the only place i've found the red one is from OEM suppliers and they want 150+ for it... big off. then i have to have it reprogrammed.
Cool, i can't wait! I ended up going with a Kenwood DMX7706S. I just am struggling to find the cluster I want since the one i'm aiming to find is the red with DIC in it. I don't want the white one and i'm a bit too lazy to re-LED it. and the only place i've found the red one is from OEM suppliers and they want 150+ for it... big off. then i have to have it reprogrammed.
What do you mean reprogrammed? Mine was plug and play. Worked right out of the box! I had to wire up the buttons for the steering wheel tho. I don't think they made any clusters with red and dic in it... At least from my knowledge
4
So, as for reprogrammed, I mean stuff like milage and vehicle identifying stuff. I was told by a friend that I'd need to take it to GM Tech2 station for them to make it register with the car's computer as a valid part and also to set my milage.

In regards to the Red cluster w/DIC, there are two. I have a few different pictures here to show them. But, they are both red and white.

Modernized look when Lit: I don't like this one as much because of the silver/gray backset areas.
17665


Dim: As you can see here, the silver/gray rings around the numbers is really distracting and I personally don't like them, but it is better than the full-white option since everything else inside is red-lit.
17666


However, that one isn't the BEST one for my tastes. That spot is reserved for this one, but this is the ONLY picture I have ever seen of it, but i want it! It is a simple and nice red speed lines, white lettering. No gray/silver back set or anything like that.

17664


Other than that, there's always the white ones, but i just really want to avoid white led cluster if possible.

17668


Hope that makes sense.
See less See more
So, as for reprogrammed, I mean stuff like milage and vehicle identifying stuff. I was told by a friend that I'd need to take it to GM Tech2 station for them to make it register with the car's computer as a valid part and also to set my milage.

In regards to the Red cluster w/DIC, there are two. I have a few different pictures here to show them. But, they are both red and white.

Modernized look when Lit: I don't like this one as much because of the silver/gray backset areas. View attachment 17665

Dim: As you can see here, the silver/gray rings around the numbers is really distracting and I personally don't like them, but it is better than the full-white option since everything else inside is red-lit. View attachment 17666

However, that one isn't the BEST one for my tastes. That spot is reserved for this one, but this is the ONLY picture I have ever seen of it, but i want it! It is a simple and nice red speed lines, white lettering. No gray/silver back set or anything like that.

View attachment 17664

Other than that, there's always the white ones, but i just really want to avoid white led cluster if possible.

View attachment 17668

Hope that makes sense.
Oh, well no offense but your friend was wrong.... The mileage doesn't change when you swap these clusters (idk about other GM ones though) your milage, trip A/B, economy, oil life, distance till empty, and other stuff, it stored on some other module (idk specifics) The cluster is basically just a read out of it. no need to reprogram anything. Just add a wire into the harness, and connect that to the info/enter buttons on the steering wheel and you're ready to go!
huh, well alrighty then. So, just run the plug from the old radio to the cluster and that relocated the DIC, then get a matching set of new buttons for the steering wheel that includes the info and enter buttons and it all works out? Also, any thoughts or input on those 3 different clusters i posted above? Any idea what that "best" one is and where i can get specific details on them to search for it? Because I am completely lost on it.
huh, well alrighty then. So, just run the plug from the old radio to the cluster and that relocated the DIC, then get a matching set of new buttons for the steering wheel that includes the info and enter buttons and it all works out? Also, any thoughts or input on those 3 different clusters i posted above? Any idea what that "best" one is and where i can get specific details on them to search for it? Because I am completely lost on it.
I'm not sure about the cluster, but there's no need to run a wire from the radio to the cluster. All you need to do is add one wire to the existing connector on the cluster, and that's for the buttons that's it. I can show you how if u want to ad me on discord or via email. It's a lot easier than you think. And if you come across a different cluster you like, it's plug and play, remove the old one, plug in your new one, and you're all set!
i wasn't sure about liking the white dash but since it bolts right in and works,i tried it.i like it.i did the whole swap.
i picked up another 2010 white guage panel today.39 dollars at pull a part.
Nuptup i sure hope that you are not referring to me as your friend. If you are then please don't.
I was trying to help you because I felt that you were rushing things.
So, this is perfect timing then. I was just about to replace the radio, which makes me lose the driver info display for a while. How do I do that in the radio to turn it on before ripping it out?
I quoted the word ripping. I also indicated that I did stand to be corrected. I have not changed these on any of my cars. The reason for the suggestion is that I did not want you nor anyone else for that matter to spend money unnecessarily on a tech 2 diagnostic or the like. You claimed to have done your research but obviously you have missed a few things. I give you this quote "unless I have missed something". Which you did, 1. You did not know about the remote on/off ,and 2 you missed Joey's advice about the extra wire in which he has had to correct you on in the quote below.

I'm not sure about the cluster, but there's no need to run a wire from the radio to the cluster. All you need to do is add one wire to the existing connector on the cluster, and that's for the buttons that's it. I can show you how if u want to ad me on discord or via email. It's a lot easier than you think. And if you come across a different cluster you like, it's plug and play, remove the old one, plug in your new one, and you're all set!
Respectfully submitted,
Convertme
Nuptup i sure hope that you are not referring to me as your friend. If you are then please don't.
I'm not sure where you thought I was calling you my friend, but I'm really confused about the underlying hostility in your message. Mind explaining a little?
So, as for reprogrammed, I mean stuff like milage and vehicle identifying stuff. I was told by a friend that I'd need to take it to GM Tech2 station for them to make it register with the car's computer as a valid part and also to set my milage.

In regards to the Red cluster w/DIC, there are two. I have a few different pictures here to show them. But, they are both red and white.
I think all of your red and white clusters are the same. It's just the one you prefer is photographed at night. The silver ring isn't lit, you can almost see it your grainy pic.

Not sure where that all white poverty cluster is from.
I think all of your red and white clusters are the same. It's just the one you prefer is photographed at night. The silver ring isn't lit, you can almost see it your grainy pic.

Not sure where that all white poverty cluster is from.
So, I hadn't considered the fact that the silver ring wasn't back-lit, so that's actually making a lot more sense now, thanks a bunch! as for the white poverty ring, I mean, that's one of the easiest one's to find, and it's an official pontiac cluster, it just looks so boring.., and it clashes with the interior red-lighting on everything else.
Even the white is probably red backlit.

I hear you though. I have a green HHR radio so I could have USB and it pains me to see the clash.
141 - 160 of 181 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top