I'm pretty sure the GP will end it's life cycle with a 4 speed.CharlesP2009 said:Any chance the Grand Prix's will be getting the 5 or 6 speed automatic treatment? And the GTO? The GTO deserves better!
I want to get a 2007 Grand Prix for my next car but if I have to wait till 2008 or 2009 models roll out I will if it means I'll get different transmission.
And are any Pontiacs gonna see the CVT?
mphred said:I'm not sure I see the logic in having the 3.9L on the GTP for 1 year, then upping to a 3.6L DOHC w/only 11 more horseys for 07. I know the 3.9L will continue on in th GT and convert, but it just sems like a lot of trouble for very little gain. And I doubt a 6sp manumatic with the 3.6L would be that much quicker 0-60 since the 3.9L manumatic can hold a gear up to redline, requiring only 1 shift on the way to 60. No shift at all if you're naughty... Hopefully the 6sp auto will be a manumatic with the same characteristic of holding a gear up to/past redline.
mphred said:The boatload of torque the 3.9L has is available at a very low 2300-2500 rpm from what I've read. I have no doubt that there will be slight improvement in acceleration 0-60 on the new 3.6 while in auto mode because of the gearing, but when I really want to move out from a standstill, I put the tranny in it's manual mode. I seriously doubt that the DOHC's torque peak is below 3000 rpm (DOHC's are inherently revvier) and the difference in quickness will probably be negligible between the '06 and '07 GTPs. There's just not a big difference between 6.2 sec and 6.5 secs anyway, IMHO. Definiely not a reason to trade an '06 for an '07 GTP. If I were looking to buy right now, I'd wait for the '07. Just a more modern, efficient, lighter package. But I'm not going to slit my wrists just yet or even think about trading in my new '06 until A) the warranty is up or B) the car is significantly upgraded. By the time GM gets around to doing that, something else will have probably captured my imagination...
That's because the car ISN'T biting the dust after 07. I don't care what you friend who works for GM says.DetroitGTP said:I'm wondering where you guys read this stuff?? Seems kins of goofy to do a lot of changes to a car that's biting the dust after 07
Not certain I believe you but in any event good sales figures have a way of changing the future. Based on what I've heard and speculating a little we already know the G6 interior will likely be improved - presumably for 08 model year - and if the Epsilon II platform supplies a G6 replacement (whatever it may be called) the 09 model year would make sense for that. Looks to me like there will be an 08 model year G6 but after that...DetroitGTP said:According to whom? The brand manager says it's getting nixed. That seems to be a pretty strong case. There are no sketches for it in the design studio after a late '07 release, which of course will be released a 2008 model. If there are no sketches, there is NO car. Mike Gilliam who has been on the epsilon design tables for the last 4 years sees Lutz about every 3 days. I tend to trust his judgement. He's yet to feed me any false info.
W E R D ! ! ! ! ! !bristol16 said:my sources at GM say none of you can predict the future. sit back, enjoy the ride, and quit trying to have the most connected friends on the internet.
don't get me wrong, i like checking out the 'inside info', if that is what any of this really is, but the whole 'my friend knows more than your friend' crap is getting real old.