The 2007 GTP model. Along with 3.6L DOHC
6 speed auto
I was reding the g6 wil get a 6 speed sutomatic tranny?
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2007 6 speed suto
so the 07 gtp will have 6 speed auto and a double overhead 3.6? at 252 hp i tink----maybe worth a trade of my 06 gtp-e2helper said:The 2007 GTP model. Along with 3.6L DOHC
I wouldn't trade my ride, because I enjoy the 6 MT too much. 
I'd trade mine if I could for a reasonable amount. But that won't happen so I'm stuck with it.
I'm not so sure it will be as torquey as the 3.9.
Maybe not, but the gearing allows for a quick launch. I heard that it does 0-60 in 6.3 seconds. This would make it faster to 60 than the 6 MT.GTPGuy82 said:I'm not so sure it will be as torquey as the 3.9.
Finally!
It's about time. I love how my Grand AM and G6 drive but they seriously need better transmissions. In the Grand Am my car would always be jumping up and down in gears because the speed limit on my drive to work is 40MPH. The G6 is a little better about it but I bet acceleration would be a heck of a lot better with a 5 or 6 speed automatic transmission.
Any chance the Grand Prix's will be getting the 5 or 6 speed automatic treatment? And the GTO? The GTO deserves better!
I want to get a 2007 Grand Prix for my next car but if I have to wait till 2008 or 2009 models roll out I will if it means I'll get different transmission.
And are any Pontiacs gonna see the CVT?
It's about time. I love how my Grand AM and G6 drive but they seriously need better transmissions. In the Grand Am my car would always be jumping up and down in gears because the speed limit on my drive to work is 40MPH. The G6 is a little better about it but I bet acceleration would be a heck of a lot better with a 5 or 6 speed automatic transmission.
Any chance the Grand Prix's will be getting the 5 or 6 speed automatic treatment? And the GTO? The GTO deserves better!
I want to get a 2007 Grand Prix for my next car but if I have to wait till 2008 or 2009 models roll out I will if it means I'll get different transmission.
And are any Pontiacs gonna see the CVT?
I'm not sure I see the logic in having the 3.9L on the GTP for 1 year, then upping to a 3.6L DOHC w/only 11 more horseys for 07. I know the 3.9L will continue on in th GT and convert, but it just sems like a lot of trouble for very little gain. And I doubt a 6sp manumatic with the 3.6L would be that much quicker 0-60 since the 3.9L manumatic can hold a gear up to redline, requiring only 1 shift on the way to 60. No shift at all if you're naughty... Hopefully the 6sp auto will be a manumatic with the same characteristic of holding a gear up to/past redline.
I'm pretty sure the GP will end it's life cycle with a 4 speed.CharlesP2009 said:Any chance the Grand Prix's will be getting the 5 or 6 speed automatic treatment? And the GTO? The GTO deserves better!
I want to get a 2007 Grand Prix for my next car but if I have to wait till 2008 or 2009 models roll out I will if it means I'll get different transmission.
And are any Pontiacs gonna see the CVT?
The GTO will probably get a 6 speed auto when it gets a full model redesign.
GM doesn't have any CVT's in it's lineup now so I doubt we'll be seeing any soon.
6 speed
It's interesting that one member talks about the four speed manumatic being able to hold past the redline because I have a 6 speed manual and it is annoying to say the least that when merging or passing, unless one watches the tack instead of the road, when the 6000 rev point is reached, WHAM! The motor dies and one is left in a dangerous situation that even shifting back down won't cure; such is the kill switch action, that the revs are now too low. The car just dies. Great fun if there is a car behind or approaching!
It's interesting that just as peak power is being reached, the limit is reached also. Why couldn't Pontiac/GM have raised the limit just a bit to give one a chance to make a shift before the engine dies?
GTPdriver
It's interesting that one member talks about the four speed manumatic being able to hold past the redline because I have a 6 speed manual and it is annoying to say the least that when merging or passing, unless one watches the tack instead of the road, when the 6000 rev point is reached, WHAM! The motor dies and one is left in a dangerous situation that even shifting back down won't cure; such is the kill switch action, that the revs are now too low. The car just dies. Great fun if there is a car behind or approaching!
It's interesting that just as peak power is being reached, the limit is reached also. Why couldn't Pontiac/GM have raised the limit just a bit to give one a chance to make a shift before the engine dies?
GTPdriver
mphred said:I'm not sure I see the logic in having the 3.9L on the GTP for 1 year, then upping to a 3.6L DOHC w/only 11 more horseys for 07. I know the 3.9L will continue on in th GT and convert, but it just sems like a lot of trouble for very little gain. And I doubt a 6sp manumatic with the 3.6L would be that much quicker 0-60 since the 3.9L manumatic can hold a gear up to redline, requiring only 1 shift on the way to 60. No shift at all if you're naughty... Hopefully the 6sp auto will be a manumatic with the same characteristic of holding a gear up to/past redline.
6000 RPM is the perfect shift point for the 3900.
The number of shifts between 0-60 really doesn’t have that much relevance the benefit of the 6 speed auto comes with the gearing, a 6 speed would allow for shorter gears, a shorter first gear in particular will allow you to get out of the hole quicker like Kman said.
And GTPDRIVER The problem you are talking about is not with the fuel cut its with that fact that the tach does not keep up with the engine everyone I've let drive my car has said so. It's just a matter of knowing your car better, I rarely look at the tach anymore.
The boatload of torque the 3.9L has is available at a very low 2300-2500 rpm from what I've read. I have no doubt that there will be slight improvement in acceleration 0-60 on the new 3.6 while in auto mode because of the gearing, but when I really want to move out from a standstill, I put the tranny in it's manual mode. I seriously doubt that the DOHC's torque peak is below 3000 rpm (DOHC's are inherently revvier) and the difference in quickness will probably be negligible between the '06 and '07 GTPs. There's just not a big difference between 6.2 sec and 6.5 secs anyway, IMHO. Definiely not a reason to trade an '06 for an '07 GTP. If I were looking to buy right now, I'd wait for the '07. Just a more modern, efficient, lighter package. But I'm not going to slit my wrists just yet or even think about trading in my new '06 until A) the warranty is up or B) the car is significantly upgraded. By the time GM gets around to doing that, something else will have probably captured my imagination...
mphred said:The boatload of torque the 3.9L has is available at a very low 2300-2500 rpm from what I've read. I have no doubt that there will be slight improvement in acceleration 0-60 on the new 3.6 while in auto mode because of the gearing, but when I really want to move out from a standstill, I put the tranny in it's manual mode. I seriously doubt that the DOHC's torque peak is below 3000 rpm (DOHC's are inherently revvier) and the difference in quickness will probably be negligible between the '06 and '07 GTPs. There's just not a big difference between 6.2 sec and 6.5 secs anyway, IMHO. Definiely not a reason to trade an '06 for an '07 GTP. If I were looking to buy right now, I'd wait for the '07. Just a more modern, efficient, lighter package. But I'm not going to slit my wrists just yet or even think about trading in my new '06 until A) the warranty is up or B) the car is significantly upgraded. By the time GM gets around to doing that, something else will have probably captured my imagination...
I agree with you there, I wont be trading in my car for 12 more HP. Not to mention that fact that I bought my car BECAUSE of the Manual.
And that 3.6 is retarted to work on...
The real collector's item should probably be the GTP with the 6sp manual, not the "Only-a-handful-of-these-were-ever-produced" 2006 GTP verts being sold on eBay, which will be the same car in '07, 3.9L and all, just now called a GT Convertible
That's because the car ISN'T biting the dust after 07. I don't care what you friend who works for GM says.DetroitGTP said:I'm wondering where you guys read this stuff?? Seems kins of goofy to do a lot of changes to a car that's biting the dust after 07
Not certain I believe you but in any event good sales figures have a way of changing the future. Based on what I've heard and speculating a little we already know the G6 interior will likely be improved - presumably for 08 model year - and if the Epsilon II platform supplies a G6 replacement (whatever it may be called) the 09 model year would make sense for that. Looks to me like there will be an 08 model year G6 but after that...DetroitGTP said:According to whom? The brand manager says it's getting nixed. That seems to be a pretty strong case. There are no sketches for it in the design studio after a late '07 release, which of course will be released a 2008 model. If there are no sketches, there is NO car. Mike Gilliam who has been on the epsilon design tables for the last 4 years sees Lutz about every 3 days. I tend to trust his judgement. He's yet to feed me any false info.
my sources at GM say none of you can predict the future. sit back, enjoy the ride, and quit trying to have the most connected friends on the internet.
don't get me wrong, i like checking out the 'inside info', if that is what any of this really is, but the whole 'my friend knows more than your friend' crap is getting real old.
don't get me wrong, i like checking out the 'inside info', if that is what any of this really is, but the whole 'my friend knows more than your friend' crap is getting real old.
W E R D ! ! ! ! ! !bristol16 said:my sources at GM say none of you can predict the future. sit back, enjoy the ride, and quit trying to have the most connected friends on the internet.
don't get me wrong, i like checking out the 'inside info', if that is what any of this really is, but the whole 'my friend knows more than your friend' crap is getting real old.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Epsilon_platform:
Note the reference to G6 below...
Epsilon 2
A new version of the Epsilon, dubbed Epsilon 2, will debut in 2008. It will be adaptable for front and all-wheel drive applications.
Although "crossover SUVs" were planned for the original Epsilon platform, none were produced. Epsilon 2 also has this vehicle type planned, but they are more likely to use the planned Theta Premium architecture.
Opel have reportedly designed a new flagship model based on Epsilon 2 which would succeed the Omega and also be offered by Saturn.
The Epsilon 2 will be used in the following vehicles:
2009 Opel Vectra
2010 Pontiac G6 (The debut of E2 G6 is dependent upon whether a refresh is made for 2007. It may be moved up to 2008 if there isn't one.)
2010 Buick LaCrosse
2010 Cadillac BLS (global)
2010 Saab 9-3
2010 Saab 9-5
2011 Chevrolet Malibu
Note the reference to G6 below...
Epsilon 2
A new version of the Epsilon, dubbed Epsilon 2, will debut in 2008. It will be adaptable for front and all-wheel drive applications.
Although "crossover SUVs" were planned for the original Epsilon platform, none were produced. Epsilon 2 also has this vehicle type planned, but they are more likely to use the planned Theta Premium architecture.
Opel have reportedly designed a new flagship model based on Epsilon 2 which would succeed the Omega and also be offered by Saturn.
The Epsilon 2 will be used in the following vehicles:
2009 Opel Vectra
2010 Pontiac G6 (The debut of E2 G6 is dependent upon whether a refresh is made for 2007. It may be moved up to 2008 if there isn't one.)
2010 Buick LaCrosse
2010 Cadillac BLS (global)
2010 Saab 9-3
2010 Saab 9-5
2011 Chevrolet Malibu
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