[Pimpin007]

Sup! anyone knows if you can turn on the Fog lights automatically? I hate to push the button all the time I want them On!, just curious if it can be done or not, I love the way the look then they on, makes the car look mean! lol..

 

[MattInSoCal]

Sup! anyone knows if you can turn on the Fog lights automatically? I hate to push the button all the time I want them On!, just curious if it can be done or not, I love the way the look then they on, makes the car look mean! lol..

So, how "automatically" do you want these to turn on? With the auto headlights? When you turn them on manually? Whenever you start your car?

Next series of questions, how willing and capable are you of cutting or splicing wires and adding more wires and a relay or two? Can you read a wiring schematic?

~ MattInSoCal

 

[Pimpin007]

Yeah, I can do wiring and relays, I used to work at an auto alarm and stereo shop.. so I see there is not such option with in the car hehe, I dunno just have them turn on when it gets dark oustide, have em come on with the auto lights I guess.

 

[MattInSoCal]

Yeah, I can do wiring and relays, I used to work at an auto alarm and stereo shop.. so I see there is not such option with in the car hehe, I dunno just have them turn on when it gets dark oustide, have em come on with the auto lights I guess.

OK, not too difficult, and this will allow the switch to turn them on and off if the auto lights are not on. Click the image below to see a larger version.



~ MattInSoCal

 

[Pimpin007]

Thanks! that hepled me out a lot with the wiring colors which was what I was wodnering..

 

[Doxy]

So is there an easy way to have them just always on? I like how they look with the DRL's on in the day.

And- for the method listed above... where they turn on with the switch... would it be possible to give a how to for dummies on the wiring of this? I don't mean to be a pain... I am just not a professional at this stuff. If it's too much of a hassle, don't worry about it. : )

 

[geewhiz]

OK, not too difficult, and this will allow the switch to turn them on and off if the auto lights are not on. Click the image below to see a larger version.



~ MattInSoCal

Matt
After looking at the schematic I was wondering, given I don't know the draw of one of the coils, is a 1A fuse big enough? I see there is a third line leaving just past the fog light coil.
EDIT;
will the dash indicator be off with the above wiring? (seems the diode will prevent the dash light from luminating unless the driver hits the fog light switch)

Just asking.

 

[geewhiz]

One other observation, the fog light switch must be a momentary contact. If the ignition key is turned off (loss of power) while the fog lights are "on" the fog lights revert back to the off position when the power is restored. According to the drawing you should be able to jump out the switch but because the fog lights have to be switched "on" every time the power is restored that tells me that there is a "seal in" contact (or jumper) within the switch that is not being showed.
(I know, I'm rambling) my point is, if the switch was an "open/close" contacts we wouldn't be having this discussion because the fogs light would be on whenever the key was in the on position.

(I have a little lull in work and had time to view the schematic)

 

[RedRocket]

Check this out:
http://www.g6performance.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2350

 

[geewhiz]

That’s a pretty cool idea too; I'll just go through all the hassle and time consuming aggravation and "push a button".



"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler."
-- Albert Einstein

 

[REDG6GT]

that’s a pretty cool idea too; i'll just go through all the hassle and time consuming aggravation and "push a button".
:d

ditto :d

 

[MattInSoCal]

So is there an easy way to have them just always on? I like how they look with the DRL's on in the day.

Use the link to the rubber band trick that RedRocket posted. Otherwise you need to do some wiring work.

And- for the method listed above... where they turn on with the switch... would it be possible to give a how to for dummies on the wiring of this? I don't mean to be a pain... I am just not a professional at this stuff. If it's too much of a hassle, don't worry about it. : )

Sorry, I can't post a how-to because I didn't do the mod myself and don't intend to; I just figured out the electrical connections that are needed.

After looking at the schematic I was wondering, given I don't know the draw of one of the coils, is a 1A fuse big enough? I see there is a third line leaving just past the fog light coil.
EDIT;
will the dash indicator be off with the above wiring? (seems the diode will prevent the dash light from luminating unless the driver hits the fog light switch)

One other observation, the fog light switch must be a momentary contact. If the ignition key is turned off (loss of power) while the fog lights are "on" the fog lights revert back to the off position when the power is restored. According to the drawing you should be able to jump out the switch but because the fog lights have to be switched "on" every time the power is restored that tells me that there is a "seal in" contact (or jumper) within the switch that is not being showed.
(I know, I'm rambling) my point is, if the switch was an "open/close" contacts we wouldn't be having this discussion because the fogs light would be on whenever the key was in the on position.

OK, so let's start with how the parts of the lighting system we care about work.

The low beams are turned on manually via the switch on demand, by the DRL relay during the day when the ignition is in the On position, and by the Auto Lights logic after dark when the Ignition switch is in the On position and Auto Lights have not been disabled.

The Fog Lights can only be turned on by pushing the button when the ignition switch is in the On position. This activates an input to the BCM that, if the car is in the correct mode (Ignition On and Lights Enabled) will trigger the relay to turn on the fog lights. The input is a momentary contact that toggles the lights on or off.

In the schematic I drew, whenever the low beams are switched on via Auto Lights or the Headlight Switch, the Fogs come on. They won't come on with the DRL. We'll talk about how to change that in a few paragraphs.

The signal from the BCM that triggers the Low Beam Relay (#38 in the upper left corner) is also used to trigger the added relay. That contact (Relay terminal 86) is switched to ground, so we need to provide a positive voltage for the relay (terminal 85), which we hook to the B+ line on the BCM (a +12 Volt constant supply). The 1 amp fuse is there to protect from any wiring goofs. We won't be drawing nearly that much current; the coils are usually 60 or 100 milliamps apiece.

When the relay is turned on, the power connected to terminal 30 is switched onto terminal 87. This is connected to the BCM output that is used to energize the Fog Lamp Relay (Relay 35, far right, lower) and also illuminate the Fog Lamp light on the switch. With this connection, the fog lights will work as usual by using the switch if the car is on and the low beams are off.

If you want automatic fog lights with only the DRL, connect terminal 86 of the added relay to terminal 86 (under-hood fuse block wire F12) instead of the BCM connection as shown in the schematic.

If you want the fogs on with both DRLs and low beams, the wiring will have to change more. Make the connections as so: Added relay terminal 86 connects to ground. The supply side of the fuse that is connected to Added relay terminals 85 and 30 needs to connect to the DRL relay output (either terminal B2 or A3 on the under-hood fuse block).

Sorry, I don't feel like drawing new schematics to show the alternate connections at the moment.

~ MattInSoCal