[mgsooner]

pan roof replacement - anyone had it done?

as many of you do, I have the panoramic roof and it has been nothing but a headache. Rattles, tapping, knocking, popping, you name it I have the noise coming from the sunroof. And it is LOUD. And FREQUENT. I have taken it in to the dealer twice now. The first time they basically tightened some bolts, which made the noise worse. The second time they say that they completely took the unit apart and put it back together. The noise is still there. They now say that the next step is just to replace the panoramic roof unit. The entire thing. Have any of you had this done? IF so, did the problem re-occur? Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions? This is a major repair and I would like some input before I have it done.

 

[rgarofalo]

I am basicly waiting too because my dealer said since there isn't a tsb yet and they aren't positive on how to fix the roof after 2 failed attempts that they are talking to GM to get a fix and instructions because the pan roof is still new to their mechanics

 

[ragingfish]

My dad's sedan has the problem too. He plans to have it looked at when he takes it in for service next, but is pretty much aware already the chances of it being resolved are next to none. A woman he works with also has a G6 with the panoramic roof, and has the same concerns. Roof aside, both love their cars more then anything...but the fears of the roof rattles were enough to push me to the coupe.

I was talking to someone who's father works for GM...and he says that there is actually an entire team of engineers working diligently to find a solution to the panoramic roof problems...FWIW, I have confidence a resolution will be found soon.

 

[G6Action]

sorry to hear about all the problems with the Panoramic Roof......its really a cool idea. i hope they get all the bugs worked out for you.

guess i'm glad i got a GT Sedan with the "Regular Type" sunroof. no problems with it, SO FAR!!!! for the record, i TOO have faith that GM will get it figured out. OR, maybe they'll just offer you a NEW G6 with a "Regular Type" sunroof..
.......YEA, RIGHT!!!!

wish you all luck......

 

[The Oracle]

Given that your "new" G6 is a 2005 model, the entire roof replacement should be under factory warranty & shouldn't cost you squat! Further more, since this (or these) occurrances are happening frequently, the dealer SHOULD also provide you a loaner at no cost to you.

I have had absolutely no problems with my panoramic roof. However, I also don't drive near as much as the majority of the rest of you do. When I bought mine, I knew the technology was new & supposedly on the cutting edge (here in the states) & presumed I would be able to hear wind noises with the roof closed - as I do. Fortunately, these noises are not disturbing to me as I usually have the Monsoon going.

I for one, would like to hear what goes down with the continuation of this problem. These errors are GM's & should not bear any weight on the consumer what-so-ever.

 

[jgennero]

I had all these same issues... And then they finally fixed it. It turned out to be something within the sunshade that was creating all the noise. It took several times to the dealer, as well as the dealer getting the sunroof manufacturer involved to get it right.

Noonan Pontiac in Sterling Heights, MI should be able to direct your dealers on what they did...

 

[Blue06GTP]

Long story short 5 trips to the dealer for the squeak rattle and pop. Eventually they got it to the point that it was quiet. 2 weeks later a lesser noise showed up, was told that this is the way it was and that I need to deal with it, as the G6 is not rigid enough to handle such a big roof opening.

 

[mgsooner]

Luckily I am dealing with a dealership owned by a good friend's family so they are more than willing to work with me on this issue. They give it to me straight with no B.S. They are as baffled with how to solve the problem as everyone else seems to be. I have decided to drive the vehicle for awhile to see if GM is going to come up with any kind of fix. I will probably give it a few months or so and then if there is still no bulletin on how to resolve the problem will just have the dealer replace the entire P roof unit.

 

[mgsooner]

okay the noise has now gotten worse and is now pretty much unbearable. I am pulling my hair out. I think I'm going to just tell the dealer to replace the freaking thing. If that doesn't work, I'm going to contact Customer Assistance and get that process started. Has anyone had their P Roof replaced, if so, did it make any difference?

 

[Panoramic Doc]

Not the roof......

Panoramic People,

I hate to break it to you, but the problems are not in the sunroof itself. The problem is with the sunroof interface to the vehicle that's causing most of the noises. Replacing the sunroof module is just going to get you the same thing, maybe worse.

There is a TSB out there to add mylar washers to 10 fasteners that attach the sunroof module to the roof body. These helps create a 'sliding' surface for the fasteners, as the torsional twist in the body is too much for the sunroof to take.

Don't let your dealer fool you buy saying replacing the module will fix the problem. Adding the washers is the right fix, and it's relatively easy.

Hope this helps!

 

[Subtle_Cynicism]

Kudos on that information Doc, I think a lot of people will appreciate that!

Rate up for that!

 

[barG6]

I have had my G6 with panoramic sunroof to the dealership twice with rattling noise. According to my dealership GM posted a bulletin on December 14, 2005. My dealership has ordered parts to correct this problem and I am waiting for them to call me to bring my car in to fix it. They mentioned that they may need to replace the headliner? I will post my results asap.

 

[otcpharm]

I have had my G6 with panoramic sunroof to the dealership twice with rattling noise. According to my dealership GM posted a bulletin on December 14, 2005. My dealership has ordered parts to correct this problem and I am waiting for them to call me to bring my car in to fix it. They mentioned that they may need to replace the headliner? I will post my results asap.

They may need to replace the headliner because they have to completely remove it to insert the washers, and will probably ruin it in the process.

 

[problazer]

does anyone have the TSB number or another reference number I can give my dealer. I took my car in not to long ago and they say they have never heard of any fix or for that matter problem with the roofs. I know this is bull, so having these numbers will help me prove my case.

 

[e2helper]

Since the bulletin is relatively recent I guess we can give you dealer benefit of the doubt but if they were to query their system now it would be staring them in the face. It covers several different noise complaints

General Guide to Panoramic Sunroof Noise Issues #05-08-67-014 - (Dec 15, 2005).

 

[Panoramic Doc]

For the record guys, dealers do NOT have to remove the headliner for Panoramic repairs. All they need to do is drop it to access the mounting points. If they do remove the headliner, it's alot of extra work for them ($$), and they can do it without damaging it if they know what they are doing. :beer:

 

[e2helper]

Hmm - you aren't from Webasto are you

 

[otcpharm]

For the record guys, dealers do NOT have to remove the headliner for Panoramic repairs. All they need to do is drop it to access the mounting points. If they do remove the headliner, it's alot of extra work for them ($$), and they can do it without damaging it if they know what they are doing. :beer:

Obviously never been to a dealship in the KC metro area, eh?

 

[otcpharm]

Panoramic People,

I hate to break it to you, but the problems are not in the sunroof itself. The problem is with the sunroof interface to the vehicle that's causing most of the noises. Replacing the sunroof module is just going to get you the same thing, maybe worse.

There is a TSB out there to add mylar washers to 10 fasteners that attach the sunroof module to the roof body. These helps create a 'sliding' surface for the fasteners, as the torsional twist in the body is too much for the sunroof to take.

Don't let your dealer fool you buy saying replacing the module will fix the problem. Adding the washers is the right fix, and it's relatively easy.

Hope this helps!

Yeah, I posted about this back in November. It's not a TSB though. SM showed it to me - the bulletin number starts with "GS" - he said that since it's not a TSB it will be available for viewing by dealer service departments only.

http://www.g6ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9051#post9051

Finally got around to doing it this week. The one thing that has been bothering me about this car has finally been taken care of. I guess I'll have to start talking nice about my dealership now.

 

[tcd2004]

I've had my 05 with panoramic rook to the dealership 6 times and the only time that it got fixed for more than 2 weeks was the last time i took it. They said they ordered some 75 dollar lubricant and it lasted for about a month. A few days ago i started noticing it again so i called them and now they are working at getting me out of this car and into a new one....im thinking a gtp coupe.... If your not satisfied then threaten them with the lemon law, chances are they will contact GM themselves and you wont have to go through the hiring an attorney and what not. In my opinon the panoramic sunroof is awsome but will forever be stricken with problems, its to much of a headache for me which is why i want a new car.

Ty