Thanks NIXY........DAMN !! only 135 TSB's for '05 G6. I saw the starter TSB in there. The dealer reprogrammed the PCM . Looks like there are a lot of issues with the PCM / powertrain. I also had a little "engine flair" after a few seconds when i first start the car up....i put it in gear, the engine's idle went up and the damn car leaped forward. Everyone watch out for this one also !